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Fleet strength for the USN
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:39pm
by HemlockGrey
Anyone know where I can find this? I Googled it but all I got was either antiqued information, essays, or budgets, not actual numbers.
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:40pm
by Lonestar
If it were mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee....
I'd try
www.navy.mil
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:42pm
by HemlockGrey
Oh, thanks! I tried finding that site, but I guess I didn't think of .mil...
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:42pm
by Lonestar
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:48pm
by HemlockGrey
eh, it's good, but it doesn't have a complete breakdown- just lists total ship strength and submarines. I'm looking more for X number of carriers, X number of destroyers, etc.
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:53pm
by Sea Skimmer
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... index.html
Bold is ships currently in service, normal text is older ships no longer in service. Italics represent projects currently under development.
Also
http://www.warships1.com/US.htm and
http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/
Posted: 2003-03-04 06:56pm
by el blanco
That would probably be classified, the way the navy guards things about the nuclear carriers and Los Angeles class subs. There used to be a site where you could actually track the movements of the carrier groups, but the gubbment shut it down.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:00pm
by RogueIce
And whhhhhhy do you want to know this, hmmmmmmm? Planning to visit Iraq or North Korea and take a "tour" of the governmental buildings?
(j/k)
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:10pm
by Sea Skimmer
el blanco wrote:That would probably be classified, the way the navy guards things about the nuclear carriers and Los Angeles class subs. There used to be a site where you could actually track the movements of the carrier groups, but the gubbment shut it down.
The US has not concealed its actual number and types of vessels since 1945, when losses where generally concealed until they could be announced alongside a victory.
The only thing that's kept secret is some
internal aspects of warships. For example civilian cameras have never seen the engine room of a 688.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:13pm
by theski
Or a Seawolf I believe...
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:18pm
by Sea Skimmer
theski wrote:Or a Seawolf I believe...
Every sub built within the last 30 years or so actually. Its only in the last decade or so that anything internal been seen. Go back to the cold war, and you couldn't find a photo of a USN sub in dry dock. Even today there not that common and generally don't show the propellers.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:24pm
by theski
Sea, was it Toshiba or Hitachi that got the plans for the ultra quiet props during the early 80's
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:25pm
by Lonestar
I'd try
www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:30pm
by Montcalm
This site might help.
www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk
there is info about the USN and other countries naval forces.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:33pm
by Sea Skimmer
Lonestar wrote:I'd try
www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.
FAS sucks shit, especially for this, since it hasn't had an update to its conventional military sections since 2000.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:34pm
by HemlockGrey
Hah! Found a nice bit of info from warships1...Russian friend of mine claimed Russia had 22 carriers. They only have 1!
Bwahahaha!
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:36pm
by phongn
Lonestar wrote:I'd try
www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.
FAS is not a very good source.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:44pm
by Sea Skimmer
HemlockGrey wrote:Hah! Found a nice bit of info from warships1...Russian friend of mine claimed Russia had 22 carriers. They only have 1!
Bwahahaha!
With less then half the airgroup of USN vessels, 18 Flankers vs. 50 Hornets and Tomcats, along with four E-2s and a varying number of EA-6 prowlers and S-3 Vikings. Though USN carriers can for the most part support up to 75 fixed wing aircraft plus as many helicopters as the Kuznetsov.
22 sounds more like the total number of active Russian surface combatants.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:45pm
by Lonestar
Sea Skimmer wrote:Lonestar wrote:I'd try
www.fas.org, if you couldn't look anywhere else.
FAS sucks shit, especially for this, since it hasn't had an update to its conventional military sections since 2000.
That's okay, I haven't used it since 2000.
Posted: 2003-03-04 07:52pm
by Wicked Pilot
All Hands Magazine puts out a year in review issue annually. They contain listings of all U.S. ships, air squadrons, weapons systems, and all sorts of useful info. I'm in the process of tracking down an online version for you.
Posted: 2003-03-04 08:00pm
by Wicked Pilot
Posted: 2003-03-04 08:01pm
by HemlockGrey
Wow...thanks a lot, everyone.
Posted: 2003-03-04 08:10pm
by Alyeska
Posted: 2003-03-04 08:12pm
by Sea Skimmer
Which is why I linked to it fifteen post ago
Posted: 2003-03-04 08:15pm
by Alyeska
Sea Skimmer wrote:
Which is why I linked to it fifteen post ago
I saw your Warships1 link and didn't notice the Hazegray one.