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US Aircraft carrier to run on Windows 2000 O_O

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:30am
by Shinova

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:32am
by Spanky The Dolphin
So?

Re: US Aircraft carrier to run on Windows 2000 O_O

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:33am
by Rob Wilson
The Catapult has performed an Illegal operation and so has been shut down. Do you wish to send an error report to microsoft?
[sound of plane crashing in background]
:twisted:

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:34am
by Exonerate
:shock:
“This is a new area for us,” said Keith Hodson, a Microsoft Government spokesman. “Windows-based products have not traditionally been associated with Defense Department-specific mission-critical applications.”
I wonder why...

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:34am
by EmperorMing
No. Fucking. Way.

I can just *imagine* what will happen with this...

Re: US Aircraft carrier to run on Windows 2000 O_O

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:35am
by Rob Wilson
Sir the Radar screens gone all blue! :twisted:

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:36am
by Shinova
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:So?

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Spanky...it's Windows...on an aircraft carrier's computers....

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:38am
by Sea Skimmer
I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:39am
by phongn
Windows 2000 is actually fairly stable, but no good can come of this, unless the military goes over the code with a fine-toothed comb.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:42am
by Exonerate
phongn wrote:Windows 2000 is actually fairly stable, but no good can come of this, unless the military goes over the code with a fine-toothed comb.
I think there was something about China going to use Win, and Microsoft letting them look at the source...

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:43am
by phongn
Microsoft has opened up the code to government institutions, IIRC.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:45am
by Pu-239
Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.
The thing is that they are not allowed to compile it themselves, so there is no way they can know that the binaries came from that exact source.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:46am
by neoolong
So Windows 2000 and its successors. Doesn't that mean Win XP.

Oy.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:47am
by Shinova
Pu-239 wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.
The thing is that they are not allowed to compile it themselves, so there is no way they can know that the binaries came from that exact source.

Gates wants to take over the world, one aircraft carrier at a time :shock:




j/k

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:53am
by Trytostaydead
I'm surprised Bill Gates hasn't already built Microsoft Aircraft Carriers to launch those blue moths or whatever for MSN, lol. At $5 bil a pop, he can certainly afford them.

I hope the government told Microsoft they need to modify win2000 formore SECURITY.. good god can you imagine?

Iraqi Soldier: "Sir, we can't locate the infidel's carrier group!"

Hussein: "Trace their windows identification!!"

:shock:

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:54am
by phongn
Pu-239 wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:I'm not very concerned, the US Military recently told Microsoft it was to show it the source code of all products the service used or they would be discarded. Microsoft agreed.
The thing is that they are not allowed to compile it themselves, so there is no way they can know that the binaries came from that exact source.
W2K Datacenter Edition is a custom-designed versions, too, and Microsoft does not seem to be jerking people around on it. They may be many things, but they aren't stupid enough to do something to a US CVN.

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:55am
by phongn
Trytostaydead wrote:I'm surprised Bill Gates hasn't already built Microsoft Aircraft Carriers to launch those blue moths or whatever for MSN, lol. At $5 bil a pop, he can certainly afford them.

I hope the government told Microsoft they need to modify win2000 formore SECURITY.. good god can you imagine?

Iraqi Soldier: "Sir, we can't locate the infidel's carrier group!"

Hussein: "Trace their windows identification!!"

:shock:
Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?

Posted: 2003-03-05 12:57am
by MKSheppard
phongn wrote: Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?
Hey, fuckups happen in real life, man

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:00am
by Sea Skimmer
phongn wrote:
Trytostaydead wrote:I'm surprised Bill Gates hasn't already built Microsoft Aircraft Carriers to launch those blue moths or whatever for MSN, lol. At $5 bil a pop, he can certainly afford them.

I hope the government told Microsoft they need to modify win2000 formore SECURITY.. good god can you imagine?

Iraqi Soldier: "Sir, we can't locate the infidel's carrier group!"

Hussein: "Trace their windows identification!!"

:shock:
Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?
IIRC, on most ships there are two or more physically separate systems. I belive the crew email is also totaly seperate.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:03am
by Shinova
Sea Skimmer wrote: IIRC, on most ships there are two or more physically separate systems. I belive the crew email is also totaly seperate.
They even have email???




Note to self: Attend a tour of one of those things during lifetime.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:13am
by Sea Skimmer
Shinova wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: IIRC, on most ships there are two or more physically separate systems. I belive the crew email is also totaly seperate.
They even have email???




Note to self: Attend a tour of one of those things during lifetime.
The capacity was added in the mid 1990's to both carriers and other surface ships. Battlegroups send and receive millions of emails on every deployment.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:17am
by Gandalf
Couldn't we dig up Windows 95 and give it to the Iraqi's?

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:24am
by The Duchess of Zeon
Well, I suppose the plus side of this is that if it fucks up badly it'll prompt the government to seriously go after Microsoft.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:24am
by phongn
MKSheppard wrote:
phongn wrote: Do you really thing the carrier's internal networks will be allowed to even touch the outside world?
Hey, fuckups happen in real life, man
Yes, they do. OTOH, critical parts on ships tend to be segregated from each other to avoid being hacked (IIRC, much of today's ships use UNIX or some varient thereof).

I'm hoping the Navy and Microsoft gets it right; the old Smart Ship program didn't turn out so well - maybe they learned from it.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:26am
by Darth Wong
It would depend on whether the project is guided by someone with a brain, or by Microsoft consultants. Microsoft's modus operandi is integration, integration, integration. Secure computing's modus operandi is segregation, segregation, segregation. Something has to give.