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Super cool shuttle photo

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:08am
by Alex Moon
From the Columbia. It's nighttime descending over Europe.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/ ... guest.html

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:08am
by Exonerate
Looks beautiful...

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:12am
by Gandalf
That is beautiful.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:18am
by Kintaro
Wow, that's one of the best Earth shots I've seen.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:34am
by Vympel
You go to Rush Limbaugh.com?

Why?

Nice photo.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:38am
by Sea Skimmer
Nice pic, and great for photoshopping. Just add an emblem of some nation or dictator into the middle of the dark area. Possibul with some arrows

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:41am
by Raptor 597
Very pretty. Nice contrast aswell.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:46am
by Enlightenment
Further proof that Limbag is an idiot...

That's not a photo.

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:52am
by Shinova
Enlightenment wrote:Further proof that Limbag is an idiot...

That's not a photo.
How so? :?

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:58am
by Exonerate
Shinova wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:Further proof that Limbag is an idiot...

That's not a photo.
How so? :?
Upon closer examination, I think he's right... There's the lights which are doubtful, then the snow... One has to doubt wtf the Colombia was doing over Africa... It probably wouldn't have been too hard to photoshop... Add a black layer, overlay mode, some lights...

Posted: 2003-03-05 01:59am
by Spanky The Dolphin
It's a fake.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/sunset.asp

I thought as much, since that's not how Earth looks from space.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:02am
by Alex Moon
Vympel wrote:You go to Rush Limbaugh.com?

Why?

Nice photo.
I just saw a link to the image from another site and posted it here 'cause it looked cool.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:10am
by Shaka[Zulu]
oh, definitely a fake... subsea terrain features are typically not viewable in the visible spectrum to the degree seen in that image -- it looks surprisingly like the 'blue marble' earth terrain maps, which are composites of the entire planet, taken at different times to eliminate cloud cover, and in variying spectral ranges to accentuate desirable features. I have some pretty large full-planet bitmaps (day & night -- including lights) that Ive applied to make some pretty cool images in MAX. wanna see?

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:10am
by phongn
I thought it looked like a Photoshop job. Either that or someone was playing with XPlanet.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:20am
by neoolong
Kinda funky looking because of the editing, but it still looks kinda cool.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:21am
by Raxmei
The complete lack of any cloud cover over the entire surface of the planet rang warning bells even before I saw the picture.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:23am
by Shinova
Raxmei wrote:The complete lack of any cloud cover over the entire surface of the planet rang warning bells even before I saw the picture.
*smashes head against a steel bulkead*


Gosh, why didn't I notice that...should've been blindingly obvious....

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:27am
by TrailerParkJawa
No cloud cover at all rang a bell for me, plus the image just looks too clean.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:29am
by neoolong
TrailerParkJawa wrote:No cloud cover at all rang a bell for me, plus the image just looks too clean.
The water looks odd too.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:31am
by Enlightenment
Shinova wrote:How so? :?
1. Europe is not cloudless at this time of year.

2. There are no lighting effects (highlights, shadowing, etc).

3. The terminator line (sunset) is has the wrong angle and radius for an orbital shot. The terminator is, however, right where one would expect for an image taken from a program written to show the ground track of the sunrise/sunset line.

4. Deep subsurface ocean details like the mid atlantic ridge are not visible from above.

5. STS-107 was in a 20-something degree orbit. This inclination is not high enough for Columbia to have passed over Europe to take this image from overhead.

6. NASA doesn't use films with a sufficiently wide dynamic range to capture both night and day details without washing or blacking out.


This is such an obvious fraud that I'm amazed anyone fell for it.

Posted: 2003-03-05 02:45am
by Enlightenment
For comparison this is a real shot of a small chunk of Europe at sunset taken from STS-105:

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Posted: 2003-03-05 07:50am
by The Great Unbearded One
One word : Fantastic!

Posted: 2003-03-05 08:01am
by Einhander Sn0m4n
Enlightenment wrote: 6. NASA doesn't use films with a sufficiently wide dynamic range to capture both night and day details without washing or blacking out.
I don't think such an imaging device with the required dynamic range exists other than the human eye (and that of most animals).

Posted: 2003-03-05 11:28am
by Xenophobe3691
Edit: Double Posts suck.

Posted: 2003-03-05 11:29am
by Xenophobe3691
Here's another thing. From Space, the shadow of the Earth never forms the Sine curve you see in that picture. It's always a curved line, since you can only see half of the planet at one time. If any of you have used LunarCell, you would see this fraud in an instant.

Here's an example:
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