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OK, I'm looking into getting my California motorcycle license, and I'm wondering what type of motorcycle would be best.

1. Shock - is leaning forward, as on a "ninja" bike easier on the back as opposed to sitting upright as on a touing bike?

2. Are there any particular brands/models that anyone would recommend, especially in terms of mechanical reliability? Note that I'm not interested in getting a new motorcycle, but perhaps one that's around a couple years old.

If you want a "ninja" bike, get the YZF-R1 or the Hayabusa.

Hmm, the Hayabusa... er, I'm not sure if I want to get the fastest street-legal motorcycle...

Crayz9000 wrote:Hmm, the Hayabusa... er, I'm not sure if I want to get the fastest street-legal motorcycle...

Why not? Anyway you could also look for the R6. It's a smaller version of the R1.

Fuck Yamaha dude. Get a god damned Honda. Depends really on how much you have, and how much your gonna spend. I will tell you this. Many people I work with and know who ride, find that a smaller 600cc sportbike is the way to go. Now granted over the past few years, Suzuki as reeled in thier fucking GSXR1300, but the early runs of the Hyabusa and thier attempted cover up was just crap. They were using weak chains so it wouldn't shear their already piss poor gears, and the chains broke. Same thing in the VL1500LC, crap transmission. Either way. Like I said. This is were it gets fucked up. Cuz if you get a sportbike, your going to really need the better gear, and that runs your ass up. However if you get a cruiser, like Yamaha's V-Star or Honda's Shadow, then a leather jacket and a helmet can do you just fine. I can tell ya whatever you want, and fine out even more.

Well, that's what I'm wondering. Which style, upright or leaning forward, is easier / less fatiguing on the body?

Also, yeah, I'm more interested in mechanical reliability over top speed or performance (though I don't want a fucking moped ). My target price range is probably around or below $2000 used...

OMG $2000 or less!!! I mean, you CAN find something. I guess wouldn't be too hard for you out there. As far as fatigue, not really. Either way you go, you'll be positioned correctly and there's no effort to it. Back to the price. If you can handle more lik $4000 you can get a recent 600cc bike, that's damned reliable, will last if you take care of it, and if you get a wild hair up your ass, you can flogg it. Like I said, if you want to fuck with it, either an R6 or a CBR600.

Like I said, I'm not looking for the newest or hottest...

BTW, how were the 1980s for Honda? I've been browsing through ebaymotors just to see what they're going for, and I noticed a 1985 VF500F Interceptor...

They were built out of LEAD. They hold up, no problem, still get parts, people fix them up. No problem, but they're heavy as fuck and slow as shit. I'm telling ya dude, save a few penneys, follow my advice. You WILL come out in the long run.

Crayz9000 wrote:Like I said, I'm not looking for the newest or hottest...

BTW, how were the 1980s for Honda? I've been browsing through ebaymotors just to see what they're going for, and I noticed a 1985 VF500F Interceptor...

Buy a mixture of a speed-bike and a chopper...

My fave is still the V-Max back from the 90's.

Ps: It's a crazy idea to buy a Hayabusha as a first bike.

Yeah, I see what you mean about the VF500. 66 horsepower total... and the Yamaha XJ750 was actually worse, since it had the same number of horses but more weight.

How is the Honda CB750? I hear that they're excellent mechanically (aside from a chain drive) and tend to hold up well...

Crayz9000 wrote:OK, I'm looking into getting my California motorcycle license, and I'm wondering what type of motorcycle would be best.

1. Shock - is leaning forward, as on a "ninja" bike easier on the back as opposed to sitting upright as on a touing bike?

2. Are there any particular brands/models that anyone would recommend, especially in terms of mechanical reliability? Note that I'm not interested in getting a new motorcycle, but perhaps one that's around a couple years old.

I'd recommend a Harley Davidson Road King or a Honda Valkyrie.

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http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mchonda/mc ... Valk2t.jpg

get a BMW and support our economy.

Crayz..some bikes for your perusal



The Yamaha Morpho - Yamaha's Morpho concept bike featured adjustable attitude! The handlebars and instrument cluster are height adjustable. This bizarre feat of engineering used a hydraulically-actuated recirculating-ball steering system. The concept of a single-sided front swingarm actually made it into production in the form of the GTS-1000's RADD front end.


Yamaha GTS-100 -Yamaha's GTS-1000 features the following technologies; RADD front suspension, Electronic Fuel Injection, ABS brakes (front and rear), a three-way catalytic converter, genesis-technology engine. The Omega frame uses the engine as a stressed member


Bimota Mantra - This is the Bimota Mantra. Bimota took extreme measures to make sure that their "standard motorcycle" would not be mistaken for a standard motorcycle. The Mantra provides excellent handling, a comfortable seating position and loads of attitude.

BTW, do the images load?

Here's the Honda CB750...

Boba Fett wrote:

Crayz9000 wrote:Like I said, I'm not looking for the newest or hottest...

BTW, how were the 1980s for Honda? I've been browsing through ebaymotors just to see what they're going for, and I noticed a 1985 VF500F Interceptor...

Buy a mixture of a speed-bike and a chopper...

My fave is still the V-Max back from the 90's.

Ps: It's a crazy idea to buy a Hayabusha as a first bike.

The V-Max is a bad bitch. You won't be able to do much hopping up to it. Well, I keep forgetting Crazy is in Cali, it's easier for him to get that shit. But yeah, it's a bad mother fucker. A Hayabusa for a first bike is like a fucking 13 year old trying to learn to drive in a damn ferrari. Same with any bike like that though. ZX1200, CBR900 or 929, GSXR1000, R1.

Crayz9000 wrote:Yeah, I see what you mean about the VF500. 66 horsepower total... and the Yamaha XJ750 was actually worse, since it had the same number of horses but more weight.

How is the Honda CB750? I hear that they're excellent mechanically (aside from a chain drive) and tend to hold up well...

Oh shit yeah. From 71 up to 83. That's just the range of CB750s and the CB750K Four. The CB759 nighthawk, now that might be more your liking if your looking to skimp on money but still have a damn good bike.

jegs2 wrote:

Crayz9000 wrote:OK, I'm looking into getting my California motorcycle license, and I'm wondering what type of motorcycle would be best.

1. Shock - is leaning forward, as on a "ninja" bike easier on the back as opposed to sitting upright as on a touing bike?

2. Are there any particular brands/models that anyone would recommend, especially in terms of mechanical reliability? Note that I'm not interested in getting a new motorcycle, but perhaps one that's around a couple years old.

I'd recommend a Harley Davidson Road King or a Honda Valkyrie.

Harley's suck ass. There is NO debate to that one. LoL! The Valkyrie is a bike unto itself. Utilizing the famous V6 Gold wing engine for a cruiser bike that's powerful, quiet, and smooth riding. There isn't a better ride on the road.

The good thing about the CB750 is that there are hordes of them still around, so parts are plentiful and the prices are pretty low.

I might as well explain why I'm looking for an older bike that's inexpensive; since I'm a student, I'm on more or less a shoestring budget. Virtually all my tuition & book money comes from scholarships and the like. My job as a math tutor only pays for my food and then some. And since the CB750 gets around 50 mpg, doesn't cost much for an older model... I think I'll go with that one.