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Wall of Ignorance

Posted: 2003-03-11 04:12am
by Robert Treder
In 1914, a movie was made with the title The Barrier of Ignorance.

I guess Darkstar and friends aren't a recent phenomena.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:20am
by Dalton
The barrier of ignorance is the driving force behind the continued hatred of Jews, blacks, homosexuals and others. It's been around for centuries; Darkstar's own wall of ignorance might be different, but it's not the first.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:30am
by MKSheppard
Dalton wrote:The barrier of ignorance is the driving force behind the continued hatred of Jews, blacks, homosexuals and others. It's been around for centuries; Darkstar's own wall of ignorance might be different, but it's not the first.
Wow, nice way you leave out the Irish.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:30am
by Robert Treder
You learn something new every day.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:33am
by Robert Treder
MKSheppard wrote:[snip Dalton's post]
Wow, nice way you leave out the Irish.
What are you getting at?

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:34am
by Dalton
MKSheppard wrote:
Dalton wrote:The barrier of ignorance is the driving force behind the continued hatred of Jews, blacks, homosexuals and others. It's been around for centuries; Darkstar's own wall of ignorance might be different, but it's not the first.
Wow, nice way you leave out the Irish.
"and others."

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:34am
by MKSheppard
Robert Treder wrote: What are you getting at?
Go take a look at some of the old 18th and 19th century agitprop against
the Irish. An Irishman's life was literally worth less than a slave's.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:34am
by Dalton
Robert Treder wrote:What are you getting at?
Oh, it's just RyRy starting shit, as usual.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:36am
by MKSheppard
Dalton wrote:Oh, it's just RyRy starting shit, as usual.
It's the truth. The railroad barons used up the Irish by the score digging
canals and tunnels, working them to death, and then discarding the
dead and crippled for new workers.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:36am
by Dalton
MKSheppard wrote:Go take a look at some of the old 18th and 19th century agitprop against the Irish. An Irishman's life was literally worth less than a slave's.
Very nice red herring, as I was talking about "continuing hatred". St. Patrick's Day kind of disproves any continued hatred against the Irish, wouldn't you think?

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:36am
by Dalton
MKSheppard wrote:
Dalton wrote:Oh, it's just RyRy starting shit, as usual.
It's the truth. The railroad barons used up the Irish by the score digging canals and tunnels, working them to death, and then discarding the dead and crippled for new workers.
Yes, we know that. Of course, it has nothing to do with my point at all.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:37am
by Sea Skimmer
MKSheppard wrote:
Robert Treder wrote: What are you getting at?
Go take a look at some of the old 18th and 19th century agitprop against
the Irish. An Irishman's life was literally worth less than a slave's.
I always wondered when the "the luck of the Irish" started being considered a good thing. The Irish have even been oppressed or at war or both for a thousand years. Not luck I want.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:43am
by MKSheppard
Sea Skimmer wrote: I always wondered when the "the luck of the Irish" started being considered a good thing. The Irish have even been oppressed or at war or both for a thousand years. Not luck I want.
1840s - Whitehall

"Sir, thousands of irish are dying in the potato famine!"

"So what, they're just Irish!"

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:47am
by MKSheppard
Dalton wrote:Very nice red herring, as I was talking about "continuing hatred". St. Patrick's Day kind of disproves any continued hatred against the Irish, wouldn't you think?
Go read up on white Supremacist websites, nimrod. They talk endlessly about
papist plots, and the henchmen of the pope...by definition, all Catholics.

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:53am
by Dalton
MKSheppard wrote:
Dalton wrote:Very nice red herring, as I was talking about "continuing hatred". St. Patrick's Day kind of disproves any continued hatred against the Irish, wouldn't you think?
Go read up on white Supremacist websites, nimrod. They talk endlessly about papist plots, and the henchmen of the pope...by definition, all Catholics.
...which is further evidence of my previous statements regarding the barrier of ignorance. Thanks, Shep.

BTW, the exclusion of the Irish (and the Catholics, and the American Indians, and God knows how many other people have been fucked over in the past two hundred years) was a necessary oversight. I simply can't see the reason why you insisted on making something of it...my, my...

Posted: 2003-03-11 05:59am
by Sea Skimmer
MKSheppard wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote: I always wondered when the "the luck of the Irish" started being considered a good thing. The Irish have even been oppressed or at war or both for a thousand years. Not luck I want.
1840s - Whitehall

"Sir, thousands of irish are dying in the potato famine!"

"So what, they're just Irish!"
Well, that's in part because the British landlords could make more money planting cash crops then they could renting land to Irish farmers.

I still want to know where the luck of the Irish stuff comes from.