DBZ originally supposed to have ended at Freeza Saga

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-03-13 01:53am

Akira Hasegawa wrote:"Inu Yasha" is published on "Weekly Shounen Sunday" along with "Detective Conan" and "Tenshina Konamaiki". "Inu Yasha" and "Detective Conan" are the two top main attractions of "Weekly Shounen Sunday" magazine. It'll be a great loss of readership if "Inu Yasha" ends. There is a lot of pressure(?) from readers and editors to prolong popular manga as much as possible. Right now in manga, "Inu Yasha" is searching for the last piece of "Shikon no Tama". It'll be funny if it breaks and scatters around the world again ^ ^;

A couple of manga suffered from editors' pressures (I know) are "Dragon Ball", "Slam Dunk", "Yuu Yuu Hakusho" (all from "Weekly Shounen Jump"). "Dragon Ball" was originally planned to end after "Freeza" episodes, but was dragged much longer than that. The author of "Slam Dunk" wanted to end the story after main team was defeated at the national tournament, but editors wanted to continue the comic. So rather than putting "The End" at the last page, it was written "Chapter 1 End".... "Yuu Yuu Hakusho" ended quite abruptly. I heard author was so fed up, he didn't want to write it anymore. Anyway, "Weekly Shounen Jump" is quite famous for dragging popular comics until authors get exhausted. Right now "Naruto", "Hikaru no Go", "One Piece" are the main attractions of "Weekly Shounen Jump". I'm pretty sure it'll run for a looooong time.

This is from Tsunami Channel

I've personally never heard of this interesting tidbit until a moment ago.

Post by **Kuja** » 2003-03-13 01:56am

Huh. I never heard that.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2003-03-13 01:57am

Old news. I'd known that since right around when Buu Saga appeared. Of course, my roomie's big into the series, so I'm bombarded with far too much useless DBZ trivia (such as who dies the most in the series and who the only Earth person to never die is).

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-03-13 01:59am

I dont know about the manga aspects, but I'm glad Dragonball Z has run as long as it has. Though Buu seems to be dragged out a bit, ending at Freiza would be just strange, because you were just learning the true levels the fighters, the stories and the show could reach. The Android/Cell saga is great. Buu's is really good, but in a way, doesn't seem to have a personal feeling to it like The Cell saga did. Either way, I can't wait to see some GT episodes.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2003-03-13 01:59am

Milking cash cows until they bleed. Not really unexpected, but it has a marked effect on quality.

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-03-13 02:26am

neoolong wrote:Milking cash cows until they bleed. Not really unexpected, but it has a marked effect on quality.

Yup, look at Dragonball GT

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-03-13 02:29am

Shinova wrote:
Akira Hasegawa wrote:"Inu Yasha" is published on "Weekly Shounen Sunday" along with "Detective Conan" and "Tenshina Konamaiki". "Inu Yasha" and "Detective Conan" are the two top main attractions of "Weekly Shounen Sunday" magazine. It'll be a great loss of readership if "Inu Yasha" ends. There is a lot of pressure(?) from readers and editors to prolong popular manga as much as possible. Right now in manga, "Inu Yasha" is searching for the last piece of "Shikon no Tama". It'll be funny if it breaks and scatters around the world again ^ ^;

A couple of manga suffered from editors' pressures (I know) are "Dragon Ball", "Slam Dunk", "Yuu Yuu Hakusho" (all from "Weekly Shounen Jump"). "Dragon Ball" was originally planned to end after "Freeza" episodes, but was dragged much longer than that. The author of "Slam Dunk" wanted to end the story after main team was defeated at the national tournament, but editors wanted to continue the comic. So rather than putting "The End" at the last page, it was written "Chapter 1 End".... "Yuu Yuu Hakusho" ended quite abruptly. I heard author was so fed up, he didn't want to write it anymore. Anyway, "Weekly Shounen Jump" is quite famous for dragging popular comics until authors get exhausted. Right now "Naruto", "Hikaru no Go", "One Piece" are the main attractions of "Weekly Shounen Jump". I'm pretty sure it'll run for a looooong time.
This is from Tsunami Channel

I've personally never heard of this interesting tidbit until a moment ago.

You should see in the manga where Yusuke first meets his father, pretty much doodles and scribbles

Cyborg Stan · Post by **Cyborg Stan** » 2003-03-13 02:31am

I was under the impression that it was common knowledge......

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-03-13 07:01am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:I dont know about the manga aspects, but I'm glad Dragonball Z has run as long as it has. Though Buu seems to be dragged out a bit, ending at Freiza would be just strange, because you were just learning the true levels the fighters, the stories and the show could reach. The Android/Cell saga is great. Buu's is really good, but in a way, doesn't seem to have a personal feeling to it like The Cell saga did. Either way, I can't wait to see some GT episodes.

You'll be dissapointed.

Take it from a once hardcore fan. Facing the idiocy, the best thing to do is to declare the whole shit non canon, and stick to Dragon Ball (Z)

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-03-13 07:31am

Colonel Olrik wrote:
DG_Cal_Wright wrote:I dont know about the manga aspects, but I'm glad Dragonball Z has run as long as it has. Though Buu seems to be dragged out a bit, ending at Freiza would be just strange, because you were just learning the true levels the fighters, the stories and the show could reach. The Android/Cell saga is great. Buu's is really good, but in a way, doesn't seem to have a personal feeling to it like The Cell saga did. Either way, I can't wait to see some GT episodes.
You'll be dissapointed.

Take it from a once hardcore fan. Facing the idiocy, the best thing to do is to declare the whole shit non canon, and stick to Dragon Ball (Z)

Right you are Col Olrik...Akira Toriyama wasn't even involved the the production of GT, Toei just used his characters

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-03-13 10:45am

DG_Cal_Wright wrote:I dont know about the manga aspects, but I'm glad Dragonball Z has run as long as it has. Though Buu seems to be dragged out a bit, ending at Freiza would be just strange, because you were just learning the true levels the fighters, the stories and the show could reach. The Android/Cell saga is great. Buu's is really good, but in a way, doesn't seem to have a personal feeling to it like The Cell saga did. Either way, I can't wait to see some GT episodes.

I semi-agree. I think the episodes at the very beginning of the Buu Saga, particularly the one where Goku arrives and is reunited with everyone, would've made the best ending. Maybe end with with the final match being between Goku and Vegita, and not showing who wins(leave it to the reader's imaginations).

une · Post by **une** » 2003-03-13 10:52am

Thw whole, "editors forcing the writers to continue" thing, is very common in the Japanese comic biz.

Some writers/artists leave the Japanese market all together, and go to other countires to work.

generator_g1 · Post by **generator_g1** » 2003-03-13 11:11pm

une wrote:Thw whole, "editors forcing the writers to continue" thing, is very common in the Japanese comic biz.

Some writers/artists leave the Japanese market all together, and go to other countires to work.

Like Kia Asamiya (Silent Mobius, Steam Detectives), he did both the Star Wars manga comic and the X-Men manga comic..

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-03-13 11:14pm

I thought this was old news. Something about the fans not happy with the series ending.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2003-03-13 11:18pm

I knew this some time...and thought "Eh so they milked it...what company really doesn't when there's a cash cow like DBZ?"

Baron Mordo · Post by **Baron Mordo** » 2003-03-13 11:59pm

They should have ended it at the Cell saga. Goku was dead, Gohan was the new most powerful being in the universe... Krillin got the girl, and Trunks rebuilds the future. A happy ending all around.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2003-03-14 12:24am

You've got a great point there. I think some of the turn of events in DBZ during the Buu saga are piss poor. First off, Vegita was killed. Vegita is my favourite character. But he went out like a true Saiyan warrior. Then Buu comes back, and we find out Goku can go 3. Gohan is still alive and Old Kai shows up. Old Kai gives Gohan absolute power. Buu swallows Picalo, Gotenks, and Gohan leaving a newly alive Goku to battle alongside a revived Vegita. Whew, then they fuse seemingly forever into Veggito. They go inside Buu and split. Then they get seperated and never fuse again. Yet somehow Goku SS3 manages to beat Kid Buu albeit after a spirit bomb and help. I love the action, but up to that point the story was great. There could have been some major changes. MAJOR changes. However, if GT is a trade off of action for story, I'll be fine. That's one of the things I love about it. You get the story going, you get into it, and when the fights start, 'BAM' just thumping hits. heh.

SAMAS · Post by **SAMAS** » 2003-03-14 12:32am

generator_g1 wrote:
une wrote:Thw whole, "editors forcing the writers to continue" thing, is very common in the Japanese comic biz.

Some writers/artists leave the Japanese market all together, and go to other countires to work.
Like Kia Asamiya (Silent Mobius, Steam Detectives), he did both the Star Wars manga comic and the X-Men manga comic..

Actually, he just plain does X-men now.

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