StarDestroyer.Net BBS

For those of you out there who aren't glued to Microsoft and don't use Opera:

The Mozilla Organization has finally released Mozilla 1.3. On first impression, it's stable, renders pages much faster than 1.2x ever did, and the trainable spam filters work very well.

Addition: the popup killer now works on a site-by-site basis so killing popups isn't all-or-nothing anymore.

As all of us using Mozilla 1.3 alpha or beta can attest to...

Crayz9000 wrote:As all of us using Mozilla 1.3 alpha or beta can attest to...

Yes, but the release version doesn't erase your emails if you look at it the wrong way.

I consider that a benefit.

I haven't happened to lose any of my E-mails when upgrading...

Crayz9000 wrote:I haven't happened to lose any of my E-mails when upgrading...

I've been keeping an eye on the 1.3 branch tinderbox for the past few weeks. One of the final 9 blockers was a bug that could erase the profile and email folders without warning. Nasty.

Enlightenment wrote:I've been keeping an eye on the 1.3 branch tinderbox for the past few weeks. One of the final 9 blockers was a bug that could erase the profile and email folders without warning. Nasty.

Yow. Well, it's not like it matters that much, since I've been making backups due to Windows' tendency to mangle my user profile.

Goodie goodie gumdrops. I was getting rather tired of those "Document contains no data" errors that Mozilla generated.

Lovely. I just hope it doesn't crash like 1.2 did....

Dalton wrote:Goodie goodie gumdrops. I was getting rather tired of those "Document contains no data" errors that Mozilla generated.

Fucking errors are still there! Has to do with iframes. Fuckity fuck.

EDIT: Complete uninstall/reinstall worked. That is, after I moved the data files that the installer managed to put in the wrong directory...

Dammit, toolbars won't work. Uninstall does not work, manual deletion does not work, since I can't find where the preferences are stored on a winxp machine.

Pu-239 wrote:Dammit, toolbars won't work. Uninstall does not work, manual deletion does not work, since I can't find where the preferences are stored on a winxp machine.

User prefs? Usually stored in Documents and Settings Your Profile Application Data (usually hidden) Mozilla etc.

Folder doesn't exist, even when I set the thing to show hidden files.

Oh well this is a school computer so I don't really care.

Just installed it looking great so far

If it's a school computer the IT staff may have hidden a bunch of stuff from the user. And why do you have the security rights to actually install software anyways???

I'm running Phoenix 0.5 right now; waiting for them to catch up with Mozilla.

Wow, the launch time on this version has improved quite a bit. Too bad I still loathe XUL and the scrolling speed blows, but otherwise, it seems much faster overall. Camino is moving over to the 1.3 trunk, I think, so that'll be interesting. I'll stick with Safari for now, though.

Pie menus are great!

phongn wrote:I'm running Phoenix 0.5 right now; waiting for them to catch up with Mozilla.

Phoenix works a lot better on school computers, because you don't have to install anything. Just unzip it to, say, the desktop and delete it when you're done. It works on Win2K boxes that don't permit software installation, although I don't know about XP...

The Win2k system at my uni seems to have a few copies of Mozilla, Opera and Phoenix lurking around on some terminals. For simplicity, I always use IE6 in the computer labs when doing a practical but I always use Mozilla combined with Mozilla for some pages that don't render well for IE on my PC.

Crayz9000 wrote:

phongn wrote:I'm running Phoenix 0.5 right now; waiting for them to catch up with Mozilla.

Phoenix works a lot better on school computers, because you don't have to install anything. Just unzip it to, say, the desktop and delete it when you're done. It works on Win2K boxes that don't permit software installation, although I don't know about XP...

On the Mac boxes I install Safari since it doesn't litter the computer with files (just creates a bundle on the desktop) and then delete them when I'm done.

phongn wrote:If it's a school computer the IT staff may have hidden a bunch of stuff from the user. And why do you have the security rights to actually install software anyways???

I'm running Phoenix 0.5 right now; waiting for them to catch up with Mozilla.

Security holes- I can write to c:\ and my personal folder, just not the windows directory and program files. Morons.

1.2 worked fine.

Pu-239 wrote:

phongn wrote:If it's a school computer the IT staff may have hidden a bunch of stuff from the user. And why do you have the security rights to actually install software anyways???

I'm running Phoenix 0.5 right now; waiting for them to catch up with Mozilla.

Security holes- I can write to c:\ and my personal folder, just not the windows directory and program files. Morons.

We can't touch anything except a partition (or maybe it's a mapped directory) designated for student use. The main partition is invisible to the user.

I'm running the 14 March nightly build of Phoenix now, and it appears to be running off the Mozilla 1.4a trunk!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4a; MultiZilla v1.3.1.2) Gecko/20030314 Phoenix/0.5

Will it wipe out ALL my favorites, passwords, etc. like the 1.2 install did?

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Will it wipe out ALL my favorites, passwords, etc. like the 1.2 install did?

Hopefully not, but you should back up your profiles directory just in case.

Apart from the fact that I seem to be unable to download themes, this is great.