NFL 2014 offseason/draft thread

[Thanas]

Demarcus Ware was just released by the Dallas Cowboys.

Jerry Jones had no other card left to play thanks to his mismanagement.

[Thanas]

Developments:

Atlanta Falcons extend DT Jonathan Babineaux with a 3yr deal
Atlanta Falcons extend C Joe Hawley with a 2yr deal
Chicago Bears sign DE LaMarr Houston to a 5yr/$35mil contract
Cincinnati Bengals re-sign WR/PR Brandon Tate to an unknown deal
Cleveland Browns sign LB Karlos Dansby to a 4yr/$24mil contract ($14mil guaranteed)
Cleveland Browns sign SS Donte Whitner to a 4yr/$28mil contract
Denver Broncos re-sign WR Andre Caldwell to a 2yr/$3.45mil contract
Detroit Lions extend HB Joique Bell with a 2yr/$7mil contract ($4.3mil guaranteed)
Indianapolis Colts sign K Adam Vinatieri to a 2yr deal
Indianapolis Colts sign DE Arthur Jones to an unknown deal
Miami Dolphins agree to a deal with LT Branden Albert for $10mil a year (undisclosed length of contract)
Miami Dolphins sign DT Earl Mitchell to a 4yr/$16mil contract ($9mil guaranteed)
New York Giants re-sign S Stevie Brown to an unknown deal
New York Giants sign HB Peyton Hillis to a 2yr deal
New York Giants sign CB Trumaine McBride to a 2yr/$3.1mil deal
Oakland Raiders re-sign HB Darren McFadden to a 1yr deal
San Francisco 49ers re-sign K Phil Dawson to an unkown deal
San Francisco 49ers sign S Antoine Bethea to an unknown deal
Seattle Seahawks re-sign TE Anthony McCoy to a 1yr deal
Seattle Seahawks re-sign DE Michael Bennett to a 4yr/$26.5mil contract ($16mil guaranteed)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers agree to a contract with DE Michael Johnson worth 5yr/$43.75m ($24mil guaranteed)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers sign TE Brandon Myers* to a 2yr/$4mil contract
Washington Redskins sign WR Andre Roberts to an 4yr/~$16mil deal (~$8mil guaranteed
Washington Redskins re-sign LB Perry Riley to an unknown extension

Cuts:

Cowboys cut OLB Demarcus Ware
Cowboys cut WR Miles Austin
49ers cut CB Carlos Rodgers
Steelers cut OLB Lamarr Woodley
Bills cut QB Kevin Kolb
Rams cut CB Cortland Finnegan
Texans cut TE Owen Daniels
Bears cut DE Julius Peppers

Trades:

Jags QB Blaine Gabbert to 49ers for 6th round pick
Dolphins trade OL Jonathan Martin to 9ers for conditional pick

[Thanas]

WE GOT EUGENE MONROE BACK AFTER ALL. YES.

[Thanas]

And for 10m less than the dolphins paid Albert or the Raiders paid Saffold.....woohooo. 5 years, 35.7 mil, 19m guaranteed. Wow, that is cheap for a franchise LT.

[Elfdart]

Demarcus Ware was just released by the Dallas Cowboys.

Jerry Jones had no other card left to play thanks to his mismanagement.

Cowboy fans are up in arms over this. Not so much because the team is circling the drain, but because Jerry Jones will be in charge for at least another 15-20 years.

[Col. Crackpot]

So long Talib. We barely knew ye

[TheHammer]

Niners have aquired Jonothan Martin. Some interesting moves getting him and Gabbert for late round picks. Classic low risk with potentially high reward considering the talent level. Have to see what Harbaugh can get out of them.

[Havok]

Fuck you Patriots.

[Thanas]

WTF is up with the patriots? Why does Wilfork suddenly want out?

[Elfdart]

WTF is up with the patriots? Why does Wilfork suddenly want out?

The Pats want him to take a cut in pay.

[Thanas]

Yeah but why get cut then? Why not say no and continue to take the money? Is he hoping for a new longterm contract elsewhere after coming off a huge injury?

[GuppyShark]

It seems fairly clear that the Patriots were going to cut him if he didn't accept the new deal. So it's really just a matter of spin.

[Alferd Packer]

Jets picked up Eric Decker. Interesting. I wonder if having a decent receiver on the team will bump up Geno Smith's numbers next season.

[Thanas]

Most likely he will not be the starting QB if they pick up Vick.

Meanwhile, like father, like son:

Irsay was arrested in Carmel, Ind., and booked around 3 a.m. He was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated and possession of a controlled substance, and his bond was set at $22,500.

He faces charges on four felony counts of possession of a controlled substance, and one misdemeanor count of operating while intoxicated.

Mr. "I don't drink ever", Jim Irsay.

[Alferd Packer]

Can't every NFL player call a special service and get a ride home, free of charge, no matter where they are? I guess they should extend that courtesy to coaches, too.

As for Vick, I'm not surprised that the Jets are looking at him(because they're idiots), but I just can't see that panning out. Vick is old and fragile--I mean, when was the last time he played an entire season? Geno Smith has many faults, but he is young and and has a fucking cannon for an arm.

[Thanas]

The thing is though that Rex Ryan does not need a good QB, he just needs a below average one who does not turn the ball over en masse due to his defence. Which means that Vick with his experience might be better than Smith at this point and given that Ryan is working on 1-year contracts himself...

[GuppyShark]

So he needs a caretaker/game manager, not a guy who fumbles and throws INTs because he's trying to be the hero.

[Thanas]

So he needs a caretaker/game manager, not a guy who fumbles and throws INTs because he's trying to be the hero.

So neither of the two? Sure, but who else is out there? Kyle Orton is probably going to be traded but he is worse than both. Who else? Another high draft pick?

Point is that Vick is better at reading defences than Smith is and commits fewer turnovers. That should be enough for Ryan.

[GuppyShark]

Are we talking about the same Michael Vick? Vick was a turnover machine in Philadelphia.

[Thanas]

Michael Vick:
77/141, 54.6%, 1,215 yrds, 8.62 average 5 TD 3 INT 3 Fumbles 58.7 QBR in a total of 7 games

Geno Smith:
247/443, 55.8%, 3,046 yrds, 6.88 average, 12 TD 21 INT 4 Fumbles, 35.9 QBR in a total of 16 games

Even if you double Vicks turnovers he does not reach the level of Smith. If you triple and even quadruple them he does not sink to Smith's level.

Yes, Smith is that bad that a guy who put up 6 turnovers in 7 games is considered an update.

[GuppyShark]

I have now written two rebuttals and the universe has eaten both (once from a crash, second from a neighbour interrupting me).

So I'll keep this short:

I don't think it would be smart for the Jets to hire Vick as a mentor for Geno or as a replacement, as he would be poor at both roles. If you compare Fumbles/INTs to games, Geno's numbers are comparable to Vick's over the last few seasons (Vick has had a small sample size in 2013 and a run-first offence, Geno has been fortunate to have the Jets retain possession of most of his fumbles).

[Thanas]

I disagree, I think a run-first offence is exactly what the Jets will run next season. If Vick is signed I think he will win any legitimate battle against somebody with just one year as a starter.

[Thanas]

So some guys mock Lewan to us.

HELL FUCKING NO.

NO. JUST NO.

Incognito 2.0.

[Thanas]

Wow, I just learned this existed. Special offer for Elfdart only.

[Havok]

"If I were you, I'd just buy a brand new one and see what happens."