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Court Strikes Down Online Porn Law

Posted: 2003-03-27 11:22pm
by RogueIce
Don't remember seeing it posted, but if it was, sorry...

Washington Post story
The Washington Post wrote:By David B. Caruso
The Associated Press
Friday, March 7, 2003; 3:16 AM


A federal appeals court has ruled that a law meant to safeguard children against Internet pornography is riddled with problems that make it "constitutionally infirm."

A three-judge panel of the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Thursday that the Child Online Protection Act restricted free speech by barring Web page operators from posting information inappropriate for minors unless they limited the site to adults. The ruling upheld an injunction blocking the government from enforcing the law.

The court said that in practice, the law made it too difficult for adults to view material protected by the First Amendment, including many non-pornographic sites.

The law, signed by President Clinton and endorsed by President Bush, has never been enforced. It is one of several relating to Internet decency that courts have struck down.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which initiated the legal challenge, praised Thursday's ruling.

"It's clear that the law would make it a crime to communicate a whole range of information to adults," said ACLU associate legal director Ann Beeson.

Calls to the Justice Department, which had argued in favor of the law, were not immediately returned. The government may ask the 3rd Circuit to rehear the case or appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Previously, the 3rd Circuit had ruled the law unconstitutional on grounds that it allowed the legality of Internet content to be judged by "contemporary community standards."

On appeal, the Supreme Court said that evaluation standard alone did not make the law unconstitutional, and sent the case back for further evaluation.

In Thursday's opinion, the court said that in seeking to define material harmful to minors, the law made no distinction between things inappropriate for a 5-year-old and things harmful to someone in their early teens.

The judges said that while the law sought to get around free-speech arguments by making the restrictions apply only to Web operators who posted material for "commercial purposes," it didn't address what level of profitability was required.

The court also said screening methods suggested by the government, including requiring Web-page viewers to give a credit card number, would unfairly require adults to identify themselves before viewing constitutionally protected material such as medical sites offering sex advice.

Posted: 2003-03-27 11:31pm
by Darth Wong
The courts have been smacking this piece of shit down for years, and the right-wing keeps propping it back up.

Posted: 2003-03-27 11:32pm
by Ghost Rider
Eh porn and whiny prudes...the eternal battle.

Posted: 2003-03-27 11:35pm
by RogueIce
Darth Wong wrote:The courts have been smacking this piece of shit down for years, and the right-wing keeps propping it back up.
They'll get tired of it eventually, though...

One side or the other. Hopefully, the right-wingers will tire first. :)

Posted: 2003-03-27 11:42pm
by The Duchess of Zeon
Darth Wong wrote:The courts have been smacking this piece of shit down for years, and the right-wing keeps propping it back up.
Social Conservatives, Mike. Elements of the Right like the Cato Institute oppose this stuff just as firmly as the Left does.

Posted: 2003-03-27 11:44pm
by Iceberg
The price of liberty is indeed eternal vigilance. Vigilance against threats within, as well as threats without.

Posted: 2003-03-28 12:01am
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
I have something to say to whover supported that bill: I know something to block children from sites some may deem innapropriate for them. It's called "Parents"!

Posted: 2003-03-28 12:08am
by Nathan F
Darth Wong wrote:The courts have been smacking this piece of shit down for years, and the right-wing keeps propping it back up.
Hey, I am part of the right wing (well, compared to most of you guys), and I think that it should be the parents jobs to keep porn out of the hands of little kids, not the governments.

Not saying that it shouldn't be illegal for kids to go buy porn, but it should be the responsibility of parents to keep it out of their kids heads.

Posted: 2003-03-28 12:20am
by Pablo Sanchez
Hey, I've got an idea. Let's ban all books that have subversive content, unless the publisher or bookseller can prevent it from being sold to children. We can go farther with this! Let's put similar limits on the publication of maps of major cities, textbooks for structural engineers, and all medical textbooks. After all, such things might be used by TERRORISTS!

Posted: 2003-03-28 12:25am
by Gandalf
How is a law like this going to help anyway?

Posted: 2003-03-28 12:28am
by Rubberanvil
Pablo Sanchez wrote:We can go farther with this! Let's put similar limits on the publication of maps of major cities, textbooks for structural engineers, and all medical textbooks. After all, such things might be used by TERRORISTS!
That is already happening to varying extents. :evil:

Posted: 2003-03-28 12:55pm
by XaLEv
Gandalf wrote:How is a law like this going to help anyway?
It's not, but it'll make them feel better.

Posted: 2003-03-28 01:36pm
by RedImperator
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:The courts have been smacking this piece of shit down for years, and the right-wing keeps propping it back up.
Social Conservatives, Mike. Elements of the Right like the Cato Institute oppose this stuff just as firmly as the Left does.
Indeed. There's a substantial contingent of "right wingers" whose social views would give Jerry Falwell an aneurysm.

Posted: 2003-03-28 03:12pm
by Captain Jack
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I have something to say to whover supported that bill: I know something to block children from sites some may deem innapropriate for them. It's called "Parents"!
Barbed wire works. :twisted:

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:07pm
by Gandalf
Captain Jack wrote:
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:I have something to say to whover supported that bill: I know something to block children from sites some may deem innapropriate for them. It's called "Parents"!
Barbed wire works. :twisted:
Or we could just rig computers to explode when they detect porn.

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:11pm
by Crayz9000
Gandalf wrote:Or we could just rig computers to explode when they detect porn.
That's a bit harsh. A program that would make the computer bluescreen every time porn was found would work far better.

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:34pm
by RogueIce
Crayz9000 wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Or we could just rig computers to explode when they detect porn.
That's a bit harsh. A program that would make the computer bluescreen every time porn was found would work far better.
Bluescreen? That's just obscene!

And as for you, Gandalf...do you really WANT to wipe out 95% of SD.Net's users? :twisted:

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:36pm
by Gandalf
RogueIce wrote:
Crayz9000 wrote:
Gandalf wrote:Or we could just rig computers to explode when they detect porn.
That's a bit harsh. A program that would make the computer bluescreen every time porn was found would work far better.
Bluescreen? That's just obscene!

And as for you, Gandalf...do you really WANT to wipe out 95% of SD.Net's users? :twisted:
I figure we'll find a way around it, like survival of the fittest, if you're not smart enough to get around porn blocks then you don't deserve it.

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:37pm
by Enforcer Talen
bwhahaha. I will outsurvive you all.

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:38pm
by Gandalf
Enforcer Talen wrote:bwhahaha. I will outsurvive you all.
I challenge that

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:39pm
by RogueIce
Enforcer Talen wrote:bwhahaha. I will outsurvive you all.
You'll be a part of the five percenters. :)

Not that it will matter, since Wong would be dead, and eventually the payments on the site would stop, killing SD.Net, it's BBS, and a good chunk of the ASVS members from the looks of it.

DarkStar would have multiple orgasms over it. :roll:

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:41pm
by Enforcer Talen
. . .damn!

but I'd outpost you all in the 3 days I had!

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:46pm
by RogueIce
Enforcer Talen wrote:. . .damn!

but I'd outpost you all in the 3 days I had!
Not if there was still at least one mod around who doesn't like porn... :D

Though if there are, they should be promptly dismissed from their position, and a proper porn-loving individual put in their place. :wink:

Posted: 2003-03-28 09:54pm
by Gandalf
RogueIce wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:. . .damn!

but I'd outpost you all in the 3 days I had!
Not if there was still at least one mod around who doesn't like porn... :D

Though if there are, they should be promptly dismissed from their position, and a proper porn-loving individual put in their place. :wink:
There goes my hope of mod-dom.

Posted: 2003-03-28 10:00pm
by RogueIce
Gandalf wrote:
RogueIce wrote:Not if there was still at least one mod around who doesn't like porn... :D

Though if there are, they should be promptly dismissed from their position, and a proper porn-loving individual put in their place. :wink:
There goes my hope of mod-dom.
[MsKrabappl(sp)]HA![/MsKrabappl (sp)]

:D