The story here is a bit more complex as the Greeks, Romans and the Chinese came to this idea in a rough and ready way beforehand. But for brevity i shall focus on modern western civilization.
From 1600 to 1800 Europe's population exploded. New crops from the new world and improvements in farming methods meant that more food could be produced per square kilometer and improvements in Infrastructure meant that food could be more easily transported. This meant that cities grew in size. This had a large number of side effects, from increasing literacy to the scale of the cash economy as more people were buying bread. Among this was a rise in urban criminality. Thieves could blend into the crowds more easily and had more to swipe and urban gangs increased in number. This happened in spite of some punishments which were quite brutal, such as execution for what would be considered petty theft by modern standards, floggings, deportation to colonies to work as a indentured laborer for several years (who were sometimes worked harder than slaves they worked alongside as slaves were yours until they died and their kids were yours as well) and executions like being broken on the wheel or drawing and quartering. The solution to this problem did not lie in brutality, but rather in enforcement.
Long story short, the systems of law enforcement that they used were like the punishments, medieval and horrible. What they had was that every night, a local guy would be required to wander through the streets with a torch and stick and yell at any thief until he went away or beat him with said stick if he did not run to be taken. As cities got bigger, a few burly men would be paid for by local people to wander about their neighborhood looking for thieves, who they would in turn give over to the authorities for bounty known as Thief Takers. This was not an effective system of enforcing the law for a large number of reasons. The Night Watchmen did little beyond scare the occasional thief and bring in the occasional drunker. The Thief Takers would bully anyone who was out at night and were more than willing to classify "Looking at me funny" as grounds to arrest someone for thieving if they were poor enough and focused on more well to do neighborhoods. As such, people prone to criminal behavior knew they could get away with a lot of things if they employed a modicum of caution. And if a riot broke out, soldiers were brought in to disperse (and failing that, dismember) the rioters. But then came the solution
It started in France with King Louis XIV in 1667 which he created a government body to retain a perminant body of people to patrol the streets and enforce the law. These men were assigned the title derived from the old Greek word for City, Police. A few other states would begin to hire full time enforcement bodies in various areas. Among them being the Marine Police in London in 1798. A basic beginning but a step in the right direction. But it would still be more than a century before it truly materialized.
In the early 19th century, Police Forces were expanded upon. They were expanded and they were reshaped. It expanded as officers became more formalized, uniforms were introduced and their scale increased. France was the first to go down this path and England, at first hesitant, moved down this path as well. Spearheaded by Sir Robert Peel...
...was the creation of the London Metropolitan Police Service. A civilian law enforcement agency designed to reduce crime. Its officers were at first met with distrust with the population of London, but gradually people became more accepting of them, especially as over the course of the 19th century crime levels went down as punishments became less harsh. This was due to the size and scale of the Met and its ability to apprehend criminals.
What we can take from this is the simple fact the superiority of enforcement over brutal retribution. Brutally harsh punishments is not effective way of reducing crime. If that was the case no one would have dared stole an apple in the middle ages or the age of enlightenment while modern cities would be overrun by murderers and hoodlums. What does reduce crime is policing, having constables walk the beat and be able to quickly identify and capture criminals when they commit crimes. Making a minor punishment an inevitability is a far greater way to deter crime than having a cruel, vile and sadistic one an minor risk to perpetrators.
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Re: Men of the City
couldn't have said it better myself
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It's worth adding the Peelian Principles:
- 1.To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.
2.To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour, and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.
3.To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.
4.To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.
5.To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour, and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.
6.To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.
7.To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.
8.To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.
9.To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.
Re: Men of the City
I would like to see some evidence of this claim that police brutality/abuses of power is getting worse.Vendetta wrote:We're at the point where these should probably be nailed to the door of every police station now to remind them of what they're supposed to be. Too often police forces have an adversarial relationship with the rest of the public, forget that they are still part of the public, etc. This doesn't just apply to the US either, many UK forces, particularly the Met, have very poor relations with the public and especially minority groups.
Zor
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WHEN ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE ON EARTH, ALL EARTH BREAKS LOOSE ON HELL
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