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Quick Question: Metallica and Theology
Posted: 2003-03-30 07:18pm
by Queeb Salaron
Metallica wrote a song called "Call of Ktulu." Is that a reference to Clthulhu? There are no lyrics to the song, so I can't tell, and I can't find anything online that analyzes the origins of the song. If anyone knows anything (metal fans out there?) it'd be appreciated.
Re: Quick Question: Metallica and Theology
Posted: 2003-03-30 07:28pm
by XaLEv
Queeb Salaron wrote:Metallica wrote a song called "Call of Ktulu." Is that a reference to Clthulhu? There are no lyrics to the song, so I can't tell, and I can't find anything online that analyzes the origins of the song. If anyone knows anything (metal fans out there?) it'd be appreciated.
Almost certainly. Especially since they have another song - The Thing That Should Not Be - which has several obvious references to Cthulhu even though it never actually mentions him.
EDIT: lyrics to The Thing That Should Not Be
Messenger of Fear in sight
Dark deception kills the light
Hybrid children watch the sea
Pray for Father, roaming free
fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
great Old One
forbidden site
He searches
Hunter of the Shadows is rising
immortal
Crawling Chaos, underground
cult has summoned, twisted sound
Out from ruins once possessed
fallen city, living death
fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
timeless sleep
has been upset
He awakens
Hunter of the Shadows is rising
immortal
in madness You dwell
Not dead which eternal lie
stranger eons Death may die
drain you of your sanity
face The Thing That Should Not Be
fearless Wretch
insanity
He watches
lurking beneath the sea
great Old One
forbidden site
He searches
Hunter of the Shadows is rising
immortal
in madness You dwell.
Posted: 2003-03-30 07:29pm
by Mark S
I believe that it is a reference to Cthulhu. I remember seeing an interview at one point where they said they were into reading Lovecraft at the time of writing it.
Posted: 2003-03-30 08:24pm
by Frank Hipper
I thought they spelled it correctly, also. One of my favorite Metallica songs.
Posted: 2003-03-30 08:36pm
by Enforcer Talen
they spell it like ktulu. its a good song, I used it for one of my fanfics.
Posted: 2003-03-30 09:01pm
by Stormbringer
I'm moving this to Off Topic since it has no real point being in SLAM. Unless you're one of those people that think Cthuhlu is real.
Posted: 2003-03-30 09:13pm
by Durandal
Stormbringer wrote:I'm moving this to Off Topic since it has no real point being in SLAM. Unless you're one of those people that think Cthuhlu is real.
HE WILL EAT YOU!!!
Posted: 2003-03-30 09:13pm
by Enforcer Talen
ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
Posted: 2003-03-30 09:14pm
by Keevan_Colton
Stormbringer wrote:I'm moving this to Off Topic since it has no real point being in SLAM. Unless you're one of those people that think Cthuhlu is real.
Can we move all the stuff about people that think Jesus and "God" are real too?
Please?

Posted: 2003-03-30 09:34pm
by Durandal
Stop being a Cthulhu bigot!!
Posted: 2003-03-30 10:24pm
by aerius
In any case, "Ktulu" is a lot easier to spell and pronounce than "Cthulhu" so I'm happy. It's a wicked song with the best ending ever, there's 4 places where you think the song's going to end but it doesn't.
Posted: 2003-03-31 05:47am
by Tsyroc
Must...listen....now. <click> Oh yeah.
Good tune.
Creeping Death, from the same albumn, has a Biblical reference. All the first born being killed in Eygpt.
Posted: 2003-03-31 06:53am
by Peregrin Toker
aerius wrote:In any case, "Ktulu" is a lot easier to spell and pronounce than "Cthulhu" so I'm happy.
According to one of Lovecraft's letters (can't remember exactly which), Cthulhu is pronounced "Khluloo."
I usually pronounce it as a really unintelligible, vaguely K-ish sound followed by "ooloo."
Posted: 2003-03-31 08:43am
by Enforcer Talen
I pronounce it koo-thoo-loo.
any proof to the rumor he said different pronounciations in different letters?
Posted: 2003-03-31 02:46pm
by 2000AD
Enforcer Talen wrote:ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
Pity Ando doesn't still have that sig pic he had:
"What part of "ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!" don't you understand?"
Posted: 2003-03-31 02:59pm
by Enforcer Talen
I had that as my wallpaper for weeks.
Posted: 2003-04-01 12:54pm
by Rye
I read a thing where to pronounce cthulhu correctly you have to make the most gutteral sound your throat can get to, then pronounce the first "cthu" with a roll of your tong from the palate of your mouth to the inside of your bottom lip, with the second part "lhu" just like "loo" i suppose.
ends up sounding more or less like "KLOO LOO".

Posted: 2003-04-02 06:06pm
by Malecoda
Sorry, but I can't get my tong into my mouth
Re: Quick Question: Metallica and Theology
Posted: 2003-04-03 09:32pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Queeb Salaron wrote:Metallica wrote a song called "Call of Ktulu." Is that a reference to Clthulhu? There are no lyrics to the song, so I can't tell, and I can't find anything online that analyzes the origins of the song. If anyone knows anything (metal fans out there?) it'd be appreciated.
In short: yes. There is at least one other Metallica song inspired by H.P. Lovecraft,
The Thing That Should Not Be. In which we hear a chopped-up version of the couplet:
That is not dead which can eternal lie;
And with strange aeons, even Death may die...
Metallica's version is:
Not dead which eternal lie
Stranger aeons, Death may die
which seems inexcusable, until you realize that any other version of the couplet would've been completely unusable with the song's meter, and apparently it was just too cool a line for Hetfield and Co. not to use it. They did the best they could, and that ain't bad.
Posted: 2003-04-03 09:36pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Simon H.Johansen wrote:aerius wrote:In any case, "Ktulu" is a lot easier to spell and pronounce than "Cthulhu" so I'm happy.
According to one of Lovecraft's letters (can't remember exactly which), Cthulhu is pronounced "Khluloo."
I usually pronounce it as a really unintelligible, vaguely K-ish sound followed by "ooloo."
I usually go all Irish and just say, "Fuck phonetics!" I pronounce it with a soft consonant somewhere between a
c and a
p, so that it's just a sort of kicked-out exhalation, followed by the Japanese abbreviated
u sound. Something like, "
Cphuh-lu"
But then people think I'm calling them names.
Which I am.
Just don't want 'em to think that.
Posted: 2003-04-03 09:37pm
by HemlockGrey
I usually pronounce it 'Thoo-loo'...
Re: Quick Question: Metallica and Theology
Posted: 2003-04-03 09:37pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Well, having read XaLEv's post (after missing it the first time) I feel somewhat stupid. I think I'll go buy a Greyhound ticket to Innsmouth.
Posted: 2003-04-03 09:39pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
HemlockGrey wrote:I usually pronounce it 'Thoo-loo'...
But then, how do people know you're not talking about Mr. Sulu, with a lisp? People might get the wrong idea!
[geek]Um, wait, so the helm guy on the old Star Trek was an evil, demented, ancient gay alien space god?[/geek]
Hmm. Actually, that's kinda cool.
Re: Quick Question: Metallica and Theology
Posted: 2003-04-03 09:56pm
by XaLEv
I pronounce it Cthulhu.
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Well, having read XaLEv's post (after missing it the first time) I feel somewhat stupid. I think I'll go buy a Greyhound ticket to Innsmouth.
It's cool. It happens.
Posted: 2003-04-04 06:14pm
by mauldooku
Excellent Topic. This song has been my #1 favorite for some time now.
You people MUST check out the Symphony and Metallica version!