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Mozilla takes a new path.
Posted: 2003-04-02 04:08pm
by phongn
http://www.mozilla.org/roadmap.html
They're abandoning the monolithic NS Communicator-esque program and moving to smaller, sleeker and swifter programs (Phoenix, Thunderbird/Minotaur) instead.
Posted: 2003-04-02 04:21pm
by Beowulf
Interesting...
Posted: 2003-04-02 04:47pm
by Dalton
I think this is a good thing. Mozilla is getting bloated.
Posted: 2003-04-02 05:11pm
by Beowulf
Dalton wrote:I think this is a good thing. Mozilla is getting bloated.
Is getting bloated? It is bloated. It's been bloated since .8 when I first started using it. It's only now beginning to slim down...
Posted: 2003-04-02 05:13pm
by phongn
Since 0.8? Hell, it was bloated when fricking Milestone 9 was released (I've been a Mozilla user for a loooong time).
Posted: 2003-04-02 06:39pm
by Dalton
You have to remember that I'm used to Netscape and IE
Posted: 2003-04-03 10:46am
by phongn
Dalton wrote:You have to remember that I'm used to Netscape and IE
NS Communicator wasn't bloated?
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:00pm
by Dalton
phongn wrote:Dalton wrote:You have to remember that I'm used to Netscape and IE
NS Communicator wasn't bloated?
No, it was, which is why Mozilla seemed like a relief.
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:05pm
by His Divine Shadow
IE is bloated?
I find it to be rather slim
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:06pm
by Stravo
Ummmmm....what's Mozilla and I use IE almost exclusively. Have a feeling that this is PRECISELY what a internet newb would say.
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:10pm
by Einhander Sn0m4n
His Divine Shadow wrote:IE is bloated?
I find it to be rather slim
That's because the vast majority of the bloat in concealed in the Windows OS itself. Which is also why a browser crash can take out your entire system!
Speaking of 'Crash', I hope they fix the whole 'Java Kill Mozilla' issue. It happened an hour ago and it just happened again a minute ago. I AM MOTHERFUCKING PISSED! Not so much the inconvenience of restarting Moz, but it completely kills all of the cookies (which makes me have to re-sign in to everything, and worse, it marks EVERY thread here at SD read!)
EDIT: Come to think of it, they just need to get rid of Java wholesale. Buggy-ass shit!
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:11pm
by Ghost Rider
Stravo wrote:Ummmmm....what's Mozilla and I use IE almost exclusively. Have a feeling that this is PRECISELY what a internet newb would say.
An internet browser, like IE...well maybe not, but nonetheless.
Other than they are probably a lot more helpful in telling true differences...since I use it only somewhat.
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:13pm
by Crazy_Vasey
Aww I like Mozilla as it is!
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:18pm
by His Divine Shadow
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:That's because the vast majority of the bloat in concealed in the Windows OS itself. Which is also why a browser crash can take out your entire system!
I've had a few crashes in XP over the last year, 2-4 I think, none of them brought down the system, ofcourse XP is protected against that.
Posted: 2003-04-03 03:53pm
by Pu-239
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm using a P266, and I like mozilla the way it is. Long startup time does not bother me.
Posted: 2003-04-03 06:08pm
by phongn
Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:His Divine Shadow wrote:IE is bloated?
I find it to be rather slim
That's because the vast majority of the bloat in concealed in the Windows OS itself. Which is also why a browser crash can take out your entire system!
Which is why most people set IE windows to run in their own process rather than the global Windows one.
Speaking of 'Crash', I hope they fix the whole 'Java Kill Mozilla' issue. It happened an hour ago and it just happened again a minute ago. I AM MOTHERFUCKING PISSED! Not so much the inconvenience of restarting Moz, but it completely kills all of the cookies (which makes me have to re-sign in to everything, and worse, it marks EVERY thread here at SD read!)
Odd, I haven't had a JRE crash in a long time. What are you running?
EDIT: Come to think of it, they just need to get rid of Java wholesale. Buggy-ass shit!
You have a better alternative? Most of the Java issues are probably from poorly-coded applets, not a fault of Java itself. Do you bitch about C because Microsoff makes buggy products with it?
Posted: 2003-04-03 06:09pm
by phongn
Stravo wrote:Ummmmm....what's Mozilla and I use IE almost exclusively. Have a feeling that this is PRECISELY what a internet newb would say.
Mozilla is the basis behind the next generation versions of Netscape. It is an open-source application and it is generally quite excellent, though still has some major issues even as it approaches v1.4.
Many feel that it is superior to IE6.