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What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-17 02:18am
by FancyDarcy
What are the risks and benefits of taking cover inside a vehicle versus no cover?
If I was stuck in the line of fire (hah) from a wildfire and unable to escape, assuming I had the following items on-hand: a gun with bullets, 10 liters of clean stored water, a fire blanket, a human-safe fire extinguisher, a flashlight, medium sized sedan with 15L fuel and radio, what would be the best plan for survival?
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-17 04:18am
by TheFeniX
Probably shoot yourself. I would assume the benefit to being in a car is that you would asphyxiate before you caught fire.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-17 05:31am
by LaCroix
Yeah, the smoke is going to get you, really quick. And since you are in danger of the fire, it means it moves towards you, and the wind blows the smoke your way, too. You got a couple of minutes, the most.
Find the spot where the wall of fire is the narrowest (and the path clearest and most driveable - no obvious huge trees/rocks/ravines you can't fit through/drive over), douse yourself in water, wrap the blanket around you and slam the gas. Use the car and drive through the fire front as fast as you can and still control it. If you manage to get through, you will be save from the smoke and the fire.
If you can't do that - I'd recommend the gun, as well.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-17 07:20am
by Korto
You are better off inside the car than outside. Marginally. It increases your chances of survival from 'sweet fuck all' to 'yeah, probably not'.
On the bright side, you've got a blanket, because that's damn useful to you right now. Assuming it's pure wool. Be pure wool. If it's synthetic, the gun will be preferable.
ANyway, here's a link for you for some good old Aussie
Fuck fuck fuck I'm caught in a Bushfire advice.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-17 02:34pm
by Raw Shark
Yeah, I'm going to + the "Use water and blanket on yourself and put the hammer down," crowd. Might as well, right? If you catastrophically wipe out it'll at least be faster than suffocating.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-17 06:34pm
by LadyTevar
Something all of you are forgetting -- Smoke Rises. You have a better chance of surviving smoke inhalation if you are below the line of smoke. That's not possible when you're trying to drive a car.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-18 09:09am
by Raw Shark
Hold a seance and tell that to my sainted Italian grandma. She was 4'11" and kept trying to drive until they took her license away when she plowed into a city garbage truck. My Dad used to call her, "The Hovering Hands," because that's all you could see as she pulled into our driveway.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-21 11:29pm
by Sea Skimmer
Driving to safety may or may not work, that is very situational as to the nature of the road and the route to be taken and what is burning, a grass fire for example is far less risk then if trees are involved that might block the road. A car is not effective protection from a fire at all on its own, sheltering in the vehicle in a serious fire is probably worse then being in the open. Metal conducts heat, and the grass only creates a greenhouse effect, some automotive plastics will begin to melt at only 140F. On the other hand if you can drive quickly to a lake, that might be the way to go.
Barring a chance to drive to shelter the best thing to do if you can is light a backfire, let an area burn clear of fuel, pour the water on that ground and on yourself and then take cover under the fire blanket. But that does require some amount of warning time for the backfire, which a gun muzzle held to the ground may or may not ignite for you depending on the fire conditions, Which is really the jist of it in the first place, since if the wind is low even a huge wildfire can be escaped on foot. The Alumininzed fire blankets are pretty effective if you can shelter on an area with a low fuel load, but not magic.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-22 10:58am
by Marko Dash
if it's rear wheel drive, hold the brakes, use the back wheel to dig a trench, park vehicle straddling the trench, dowse self with the water and lay in the trench covered with the blanket.
Re: What are the main risks of taking cover from a bush fire in your vehicle?
Posted: 2017-10-24 06:22pm
by Raj Ahten