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OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 12:59pm
by LadyTevar
THIS IS NOT THE FORUM FOR MOVIES OR TV. THOSE GO IN EITHER SCI-FI OR FANTASY FORUMS!
THE NEXT MOVIE/TV POST PUT IN THIS FORUM WILL BE DELETED WITHOUT MERCY
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 01:06pm
by Gandalf
Wouldn't that depend on the genre of the piece?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 01:20pm
by FaxModem1
So, hypothetically, a discussion about the sitcom Cheers would go to the Fantasy forum?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 01:32pm
by Jub
The Big Bang Theory is sci-fi now then?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 05:38pm
by LadyTevar
Just today, I moved a post about the Sonic Movie, and a post about the Live-Action Akira movie.
Those are not Off-Topic subjects, those are Fantasy subjects, and should have gone in that folder. Over the last month, I have moved 3 other topics from this forum to Fantasy or SciFi, for the same reason.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 07:59pm
by Batman
While I agree with you on principle you have to admit that people expect SciFi/FAN to apply to a reasonably well-defined subset of movies, not all movies altogether. Maybe we need an 'Other Fiction' subforum or something like that ?
Because if I wanted to discuss 'The Simpsons' or maybe 'Two and a half Men' I'd have defaulted to 'Off-Topic' too
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-25 09:01pm
by Tribble
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2019-05-25 05:38pm
Just today, I moved a post about the Sonic Movie, and a post about the Live-Action Akira movie.
Those are not Off-Topic subjects, those are Fantasy subjects, and should have gone in that folder. Over the last month, I have moved 3 other topics from this forum to Fantasy or SciFi, for the same reason.
Ya sorry I wasn’t sure whether A) something like Sonic is sci-fi or fantasy, so I defaulted to off topic instead and B) wasn’t sure whether a trailer would qualify for either.
I don’t post threads that often and I was actually trying to
avoid having it moved.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 04:48am
by mr friendly guy
I would tend to put movie or series trailers which don't easily fit sci go or fantasy into OT, for example action flicks. I am quite happy to put them elsewhere, but would appreciate knowing where the powers that be think appropriate. Maybe as Batman suggest, another forum.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 12:49pm
by Gandalf
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2019-05-25 05:38pm
Just today, I moved a post about the Sonic Movie, and a post about the Live-Action Akira movie.
Those are not Off-Topic subjects, those are Fantasy subjects, and should have gone in that folder. Over the last month, I have moved 3 other topics from this forum to Fantasy or SciFi, for the same reason.
Where would one place a thread discussing television that clearly isn't sci-fi or fantasy, like those listed in this thread?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 02:58pm
by LadyTevar
Tribble wrote: ↑2019-05-25 09:01pm
Ya sorry I wasn’t sure whether A) something like Sonic is sci-fi or fantasy, so I defaulted to off topic instead and B) wasn’t sure whether a trailer would qualify for either.
I don’t post threads that often and I was actually trying to
avoid having it moved.
You seriously thought a movie about a VIDEO GAME, where a HEDGEHOG moves at SUPERSONIC SPEEDS, was NOT FANTASY?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 03:01pm
by LadyTevar
mr friendly guy wrote: ↑2019-05-26 04:48am
I would tend to put movie or series trailers which don't easily fit sci go or fantasy into OT, for example action flicks. I am quite happy to put them elsewhere, but would appreciate knowing where the powers that be think appropriate. Maybe as Batman suggest, another forum.
People used to post those in ART MUSIC AND PHOTOS forum.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 03:15pm
by bilateralrope
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2019-05-26 02:58pm
Tribble wrote: ↑2019-05-25 09:01pm
Ya sorry I wasn’t sure whether A) something like Sonic is sci-fi or fantasy, so I defaulted to off topic instead and B) wasn’t sure whether a trailer would qualify for either.
I don’t post threads that often and I was actually trying to
avoid having it moved.
You seriously thought a movie about a VIDEO GAME, where a HEDGEHOG moves at SUPERSONIC SPEEDS, was NOT FANTASY?
A hedgehog who normally is fighting against hordes of robots. So I'd argue that Sci-Fi would also be a fitting forum for the franchise as a whole. For this movie in particular, Sonic is an alien. Again, that suggests Sci-Fi.
But there are significant claims to fantasy. Deciding which fits best seems like it would be a long, nitpicky, discussion.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 03:28pm
by The Romulan Republic
Frankly, you could make a case for most mainstream "sci fi" to be fantasy. And the lengthy argument would be almost entirely pointless every single time.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 04:05pm
by Jub
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2019-05-26 03:01pm
mr friendly guy wrote: ↑2019-05-26 04:48am
I would tend to put movie or series trailers which don't easily fit sci go or fantasy into OT, for example action flicks. I am quite happy to put them elsewhere, but would appreciate knowing where the powers that be think appropriate. Maybe as Batman suggest, another forum.
People used to post those in ART MUSIC AND PHOTOS forum.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=219
Literally from one of the earliest topics in OT and specifically involving a rather fantastic crossover.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=766
Probably best suited to fantasy being a comic.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=769
Should have been in GE&C.
People clearly never followed the guidelines which you find to be obvious and time tested. Why make a huge deal about it now when OT has always been a bit of a dumping ground?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 05:43pm
by bilateralrope
Because it gets annoying trying to find a thread when something worth posting in it has happened.
When I went looking for the Sonic movie thread, Off Topic was the forth forum I thought to look for it in after Sci-Fi, Fantasy and G&C.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 05:51pm
by Jub
bilateralrope wrote: ↑2019-05-26 05:43pm
Because it gets annoying trying to find a thread when something worth posting in it has happened.
When I went looking for the Sonic movie thread, Off Topic was the forth forum I thought to look for it in after Sci-Fi, Fantasy and G&C.
Just use the active topics quick link. It works for all forums and sub-forums except for those located in sci-fi.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 07:08pm
by bilateralrope
Jub wrote: ↑2019-05-26 05:51pm
bilateralrope wrote: ↑2019-05-26 05:43pm
Because it gets annoying trying to find a thread when something worth posting in it has happened.
When I went looking for the Sonic movie thread, Off Topic was the forth forum I thought to look for it in after Sci-Fi, Fantasy and G&C.
Just use the active topics quick link. It works for all forums and sub-forums except for those located in sci-fi.
How many weeks does a topic stay 'active' for when nobody is posting in it ?
For the Sonic movie thread, we are talking more than 3 weeks between posts. But it was still on the front page of the forum it was in.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 07:43pm
by Tribble
bilateralrope wrote: ↑2019-05-26 03:15pm
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2019-05-26 02:58pm
Tribble wrote: ↑2019-05-25 09:01pm
Ya sorry I wasn’t sure whether A) something like Sonic is sci-fi or fantasy, so I defaulted to off topic instead and B) wasn’t sure whether a trailer would qualify for either.
I don’t post threads that often and I was actually trying to
avoid having it moved.
You seriously thought a movie about a VIDEO GAME, where a HEDGEHOG moves at SUPERSONIC SPEEDS, was NOT FANTASY?
A hedgehog who normally is fighting against hordes of robots. So I'd argue that Sci-Fi would also be a fitting forum for the franchise as a whole. For this movie in particular, Sonic is an alien. Again, that suggests Sci-Fi.
But there are significant claims to fantasy. Deciding which fits best seems like it would be a long, nitpicky, discussion.
Yes, that was more or less the problem I was having. What counts more? Sonic being a fantasy creature, or Robotnik using sci-fi to fight him?
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 08:03pm
by Tribble
I had other issues as well, like the power ring we see Sonic using: is it magic based, or is it some kind of sci-fi tech? What about the chaos emeralds if they show up? What if the above are based on magic, but Robotnik’s sci-fi tech can interface with them?
The Sonic franchise frequently blends magic with science which is what I find problematic.
Though now, that we have a ruling from an Admin, I guess it’s fantasy. Fair enough.
And In the future I’ll try my best to pick the more appropriate category rather than off topic, but I might need another judgement call from time to time.
I also second the idea that we should have a category for tv shows / movies which don’t fall into existing categories.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 09:18pm
by Batman
Blending magic with science is like every superhero comic ever and those usually go into FAN so that one should've been pretty straightforward but I don't see how stuff like say Lethal Weapon or NCIS (or House, or Scrubs, or The Expendables etc) is SciFi/FAN.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 09:22pm
by The Romulan Republic
Jub wrote: ↑2019-05-26 04:05pm
LadyTevar wrote: ↑2019-05-26 03:01pm
mr friendly guy wrote: ↑2019-05-26 04:48am
I would tend to put movie or series trailers which don't easily fit sci go or fantasy into OT, for example action flicks. I am quite happy to put them elsewhere, but would appreciate knowing where the powers that be think appropriate. Maybe as Batman suggest, another forum.
People used to post those in ART MUSIC AND PHOTOS forum.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=219
Literally from one of the earliest topics in OT and specifically involving a rather fantastic crossover.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=766
Probably best suited to fantasy being a comic.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=769
Should have been in GE&C.
People clearly never followed the guidelines which you find to be obvious and time tested. Why make a huge deal about it now when OT has always been a bit of a dumping ground?
Dear God, I am 100% in agreement with Jub on something.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 10:43pm
by FaxModem1
And this is why I created the Sam Malone pitcher thread. Because as fun as it is to categorize a fictional character's baseball career, I don't believe it's appropriate to be in fantasy, but it falls in there under current guidelines.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 10:56pm
by Jub
Often we argue the most with those who share too many of our own traits. I suspect that were we to ever meet over a drink we would actually find a lot of common ground. The lack of tone, lack of body language, lack of ability to clarify a statement or to read how to say something so that another better understands its meaning are all lost via text alone.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 11:02pm
by The Romulan Republic
In particular, the lack of ability to convey sarcasm over the internet is notorious.
Re: OFF-TOPIC IS NOT FOR MOVIES/TV
Posted: 2019-05-26 11:24pm
by bilateralrope
Tribble wrote: ↑2019-05-26 07:43pm
bilateralrope wrote: ↑2019-05-26 03:15pm
A hedgehog who normally is fighting against hordes of robots. So I'd argue that Sci-Fi would also be a fitting forum for the franchise as a whole. For this movie in particular, Sonic is an alien. Again, that suggests Sci-Fi.
But there are significant claims to fantasy. Deciding which fits best seems like it would be a long, nitpicky, discussion.
Yes, that was more or less the problem I was having. What counts more? Sonic being a fantasy creature, or Robotnik using sci-fi to fight him?
I'd go with whatever precedent the board has if one exists. Otherwise just flip a coin and see if anyone complains.
Tribble wrote: ↑2019-05-26 08:03pm
I also second the idea that we should have a category for tv shows / movies which don’t fall into existing categories.
I think Off Topic should suitable for things that don't fit into any other category. But if a topic can fit onto at least one other forum, it belongs in one of them.