Warning to those contemplating joining SB

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » 2002-08-31 07:11pm

It's a fucking shithole.

I've just been railroaded over there by their corrupt opressionist fascist administration.

Watch your step.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-08-31 07:19pm

I stay away from there, especially the "vs." Forum.

the Gaming and OT forums aren't that bad.

Actually I joined with the espress intereest of Challenging some folks their to an online duel because of how they had slandered Mr. Wong over there. Funny how things work out eh?

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-08-31 07:31pm

What happened?

(I've never had any trouble over on SB)

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » 2002-08-31 07:38pm

Oh, just having the guts to call out the resident religious fundamentalist moderator for going on a censoring spree over the last couple of weeks, which to me seemed to be heavily influenced by things offensive to him personally because of his religion.

As far as I'm concerned the message from SB is now quite clear:

Criticise the administration? Get banned!

So there is my experience of SB. Let it stand as an example to others - watch out for that place. It's dangerous.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-08-31 07:40pm

Gunner wrote:Oh, just having the guts to call out the resident religious fundamentalist moderator for going on a censoring spree over the last couple of weeks, which to me seemed to be heavily influenced by things offensive to him personally because of his religion.

What, AD? I haven't seen him censoring much over on SB at all.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-08-31 07:43pm

I was going to make a screen capture for mine, I got bored of waiting in the first land for ANYONE to show up in the ASVS_VS_SB Diablo 2 PVP game that I actually killed all of my Necromancer's minion's around me in the campsite. My computer crashed before I had a chance to complete the Caption: "Even the Undead have limit's to their Patiance"

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-08-31 08:17pm

Here's what happened.

AWACS posted a drawing of a small woman with VERY large, bare breasts.
ArthurDent removed the image.
Gunner gets angry and accuses Dent of forcing his ideas of morality on the rest of the board, deleting things because they offend him personally.
Tron bans Gunner for flaming Dent for doing his job.
Gunner comes here.

Nudity is against the rules at SB. Dent was perfectly justified in removing the image. The thread can be found here.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-08-31 08:30pm

Gunner, when AWACS registered, he agreed to the following:

"...you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws. The agreement is available here: http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/register.php

By the agreement that AWACS made when he registered, ArthurDent was perfectly justified in removing said image from the board. Furthermore, it is board policy that one does not flame a moderator in public, which you broke. At that point, Tron banned you.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-08-31 09:35pm

phongn wrote:By the agreement that AWACS made when he registered, ArthurDent was perfectly justified in removing said image from the board.

As a board operator myself, I would point out that it goes beyond those standard "boilerplate" agreements. Even though I don't personally find pornographic images offensive, the sexually repressive laws instituted by the United Christian Theocratic Fascists of North America (ie- our respective governments) place me in a position of legal risk if I allow any explicit pornography on the board. Therefore, despite my personal disagreement with the law, I would have no choice but to delete a sexually explicit picture if it was posted to my board as well.

(Edit: I didn't initially realize that the picture was actually not sexually explicit; apparently, it only showed bare female breasts. That is not explicit pornography, and it would not place me in a position of legal risk. Given that fact, I would be inclined to leave the image alone. In Ontario where I live, it is actually legal for women to walk around bare-chested in public).

Furthermore, it is board policy that one does not flame a moderator in public, which you broke. At that point, Tron banned you.

This board is a lot less restrictive about flaming moderators. I've allowed people to swear at me without repercussions, and I prefer handing out titles like "Village Idiot" or "Fundamentalist Moron" rather than banning people. Every board has its own standards.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-08-31 09:46pm

I am suprised I got away with flaming a mod in Space Battles for flaming you last year....

*Chekimg to see if Ryan C. has had his title changed by you yet....*

Oh, well until someone comes up with "Nutcase" for me I will continue.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-08-31 09:50pm

Darth Wong wrote:
phongn wrote:By the agreement that AWACS made when he registered, ArthurDent was perfectly justified in removing said image from the board.
As a board operator myself, I would point out that it goes beyond those standard "boilerplate" agreements. Even though I don't personally find pornographic images offensive, the sexually repressive laws instituted by the United Christian Theocratic Fascists of North America (ie- our respective governments) place me in a position of legal risk if I allow any explicit pornography on the board. Therefore, despite my personal disagreement with the law, I would have no choice but to delete a sexually explicit picture if it was posted to my board as well.

Which is why ArthurDent deleted it, but I suspect you're agreeing with me, no?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2002-08-31 09:53pm

Morality about sexuality isn't limited to Christianity. If someone is offended by it(By being brought up in the aforementioned oppressive religion where the naked body is considered sinful, or at least secret), you shouldn't post such on those grounds.

Then again, I'm generally a nice guy, outside of Vs. debates.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-08-31 09:55pm

SirNitram wrote:Morality about sexuality isn't limited to Christianity. If someone is offended by it (By being brought up in the aforementioned oppressive religion where the naked body is considered sinful, or at least secret), you shouldn't post such on those grounds.

We can't avoid posting things because they might offend people. There are people out there who would be deeply offended by the fact that I married a white woman, or the fact that I think the Biblical God is an asshole.

Then again, I'm generally a nice guy, outside of Vs. debates.

We're all probably nicer in real life than we are on the Internet.

PS. Go back and check my previous message again; I had to edit it because I realized after the fact that I had misinterpreted the scenario.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-08-31 09:56pm

Darth Wong wrote:Therefore, despite my personal disagreement with the law, I would have no choice but to delete a sexually explicit picture if it was posted to my board as well.

I hope that Dr. Laura pic I posted is OK.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-08-31 09:58pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:I hope that Dr. Laura pic I posted is OK.

Where?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-08-31 10:00pm

http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... 2&start=30

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-08-31 10:04pm

Aggh! Newt and Dr. Laura...

my eyes, my eyes

I think I am starting to turn to stone.....

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2002-08-31 10:18pm

Well, after having seen the picture of Dr. Laura, I can only say that while it is not pornographic and should not be censored, I will certainly not say that it is "OK". The only picture of Dr. Laura that I would find "OK" would be her plunging over a cliff in a flaming Pinto

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-08-31 10:23pm

The only picture of Dr. Laura that I would find "OK" would be her plunging over a cliff in a flaming Pinto

See now while thats all fine and dandy not much KE will be imparted into the good Docotor which I find an un-acceptable out-come, there for I purpose a slight alter-ration whereby we shove Doctor Laura off BUT covered in petrolium and then push a flaming Pinto after her thus she gets a double Dose of the KE not ony from the impact but also the follow-up KE Transfer from the Pinto, Not to mention the thermal damage she will be taking from the combusition reaction we hope to start after the Pinto hits

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2002-08-31 10:28pm

THe Yosemite Bear wrote:I am suprised I got away with flaming a mod in Space Battles for flaming you last year....

*Chekimg to see if Ryan C. has had his title changed by you yet....*

Oh, well until someone comes up with "Nutcase" for me I will continue.

Don't forget to mention Bean and I.

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2002-08-31 10:33pm

That does Wong you do need to get a nutcase title...

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-08-31 10:36pm

Darth Wong wrote:The only picture of Dr. Laura that I would find "OK" would be her plunging over a cliff in a flaming Pinto

I'll see what I can do.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2002-08-31 10:56pm

I have no problem with the SB.com moderatorship (cool word, eh?). I visit there as much as I do here.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2002-09-01 12:21am

Eh. I think the OP is making much ado about nothing. Frankly, if you don't like how a message board is run, start your own.

With that said... if it were up to me, I'd allow just about anything (with the exception of, say, Goatse and the like).

Oh well. Sa-a-a-ay... about this picture of a "small girl" with "very large breasts"... where would a degenerate such as myself find that particular image?

XaLEv · Post by **XaLEv** » 2002-09-01 12:31am

Ask AWACS. He posted it. And it was a crappy 2-d, 4 color job. But if that's your thing...