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Windows can be so frustrating sometimes.
Posted: 2003-05-06 12:15am
by TrailerParkJawa
I was asked to take a look at the VP's PC as a favor. The DVD-R drive was no longer showing up in the system. This is a Win2K Pro machine on a Compaq desktop. All I know is the last person to touch it was a 4 year old.
So anyway, the drive shows up in BIOS, but has the yellow exclamation mark in Device Manager. I uninstall it and reinstall. No luck. Boot to a floppy drive and it works. Stick it another machine, it works. Stick another CD-rom into the Compaq and it fails. Copy all CD-Rom drivers from a good machine to the Compaq and it still fails. Install SP3, fails. Nothing seems to work.
So before I decide to hose the OS entirely, I did a google/micrsoft KB search and came up with this article
http://support.microsoft.com/default.as ... us;Q270008
So, I run regedit and now the drive is back. Holy crap. But nobody uninstalled Easy CD Creator, so I dont know what the hell happened but Im with so many others that the Registry is a big pain in the ass!
Posted: 2003-05-06 12:20am
by RedImperator
How is this politics?
Posted: 2003-05-06 12:24am
by Vympel
Indeed.
Posted: 2003-05-06 12:25am
by TrailerParkJawa
DOH! My bad, I thought I clicked Off-Topic!
Posted: 2003-05-06 01:17am
by EmperorMing
The only reason the registry is such a pain is that Microshaft tries to hide information about it.
Personally, I have no problem running around in the registry.
Posted: 2003-05-06 01:19am
by Darth Wong
EmperorMing wrote:The only reason the registry is such a pain is that Microshaft tries to hide information about it.
Personally, I have no problem running around in the registry.
The registry cannot be easily repaired. If it is corrupted, your system is fucked. I'd call that a problem.
Old-fashioned ASCII config files are vastly superior. You can dig through them for useful config information (particularly if they're properly documented), you can back them up easily, fix corruption or even copy one from a different installation if it's hosed, and separate the config data for different apps so that you don't have an "all your eggs in one basket" problem.
Posted: 2003-05-06 01:24am
by TrailerParkJawa
Darth Wong wrote:EmperorMing wrote:The only reason the registry is such a pain is that Microshaft tries to hide information about it.
Personally, I have no problem running around in the registry.
The registry cannot be easily repaired. If it is corrupted, your system is fucked. I'd call that a problem.
Old-fashioned ASCII config files are vastly superior. You can dig through them for useful config information (particularly if they're properly documented), you can back them up easily, fix corruption or even copy one from a different installation if it's hosed, and separate the config data for different apps so that you don't have an "all your eggs in one basket" problem.
Just another example of why ghost images are a life saver for NT/2000 admins. INI files are easier to search than the registry anyway.
Posted: 2003-05-06 12:13pm
by phongn
EZ CD Creator can be a PITA even if it isn't uninstalled.
Posted: 2003-05-06 04:56pm
by Vertigo1
phongn wrote:EZ CD Creator can be a PITA even if it isn't uninstalled.
You know what's funny? When you install the damn thing, it doesn't work out of the box! You have to kill Direct CD to even be able to use it!
*pats copy of Nero*
Works rock solid, right out of the box. All I can say is, if someone is too stupid to not be able to figure out Nero, they don't even need to be touching a computer in the first place.
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:02pm
by Durandal
EmperorMing wrote:The only reason the registry is such a pain is that Microshaft tries to hide information about it.
No one can be "told" what The Registry is. You have to experience it for yourself.
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:16pm
by Dalton
Nero rawks. The best burner I've used.
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:25pm
by Vertigo1
Dalton wrote:Nero rawks. The best burner I've used.
You know what really impresses me with what Ahead has done with Nero?
1. It doesn't have a lame-ass n00b interface.
2. The programs bundled with it are *gasp* actually USEFUL! (Nero Wave Editor for starters, is a kickass free sound editor proggy. You can even save directly to mp3 with it.)
3. Takes up very little disk space. Maybe 10MB max.
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:42pm
by Faram
I have one hangup about Nero.
It absolutly insist on creeping into the registry's startup and run NeroCheck.
Fucking hate selfstarting programs Start when I run the program and not when I boot the computer.
It hides at:
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HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVerision\Run
BTW
If you don't know what that is trust me on this one DONT mess with it.
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:49pm
by Dalton
Faram, what does NeroCheck do?
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:55pm
by Faram
Dalton wrote:Faram, what does NeroCheck do?
From Ahead's page:
"The NeroCheck program looks for known driver conflicts with our Nero software. So that when a Nero Log file is printed, at the very bottom of the Nero log file you will find a list of drivers we have found on your system that could be causing conflicts, if you are running into problems.".
In other words pure crap.
Posted: 2003-05-06 05:55pm
by Vertigo1
edit: nevermind, see previous post.
Posted: 2003-05-07 12:57am
by EmperorMing
Durandal wrote:EmperorMing wrote:The only reason the registry is such a pain is that Microshaft tries to hide information about it.
No one can be "told" what The Registry is. You have to experience it for yourself.
Very true.
BTW, the only versions of Adaptec and Nero I use are the ones that come with my burners. I take it you are using the verisons off the shelf?
Posted: 2003-05-07 03:34am
by Hethrir
If you like Nero, you will love Clone CD and Especially Alcohol 120%
the saviour of 98 is "scanreg /restore"
Posted: 2003-05-07 09:32am
by phongn
I don't like CloneCD very much, actually.