Associated Press wrote:Pair jailed for starving baby
Daughter given only nuts, beans, oils, tea
16-month-old child too weak to cry, court told
NEW YORK—Two parents convicted of nearly starving their infant daughter to death by putting her on their strict vegan diet were given prison sentences of five and six years yesterday, prosecutors said.
The baby, Ice Swinton, weighed just 10 pounds, had rickets, had no teeth and could not walk, sit or roll over when she was taken into custody in November, 2001.
Prosecutors said the baby, 16 months old when discovered, was too weak to cry.
Justice Richard Buchter sentenced Joseph and Silva Swinton, both 32, last month on charges of assault, reckless endangerment and endangering the welfare of a child. The father was given five years, the mother six.
The judge said although the defendants were "reckless and callous," he did not believe they were "consciously malevolent."
He called for New York legislators to enact tougher child abuse laws — much like those that make it a felony punishable by up to 7 years behind bars to abuse the elderly.
Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said in a statement: "The defendants placed their newborn on a self-styled vegan diet that brought her to the brink of death.
"The defendants, despite pleas from many of their family and friends, arrogantly ignored warnings and never sought medical attention for their child,'' Brown said.
Prosecutors argued that the Swintons treated Ice like a gerbil, feeding her ground nuts, fresh-squeezed juices, herbal tea, beans, cod liver oil and flax seed oil.
The parents said their health improved after they restricted their diets and they hoped their child would benefit from eating similar foods.
Lawyers for the Swintons said the parents were unaware they were harming the child.
Doctors testified that Ice, now nearly 3, had significantly improved but was at risk of heart failure because of the poor nutrition and warned that she may experience developmental problems.
The baby is recovering in foster care but still has serious developmental problems.
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I heard about this a while ago. Talk about stupid idiots.
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That is HORRIBLE 
I don't care what someone's beliefs are, there is absolutely no excuse for what they did!
They, and i'm not kidding, both should be sterilized! They have no business having children.
That poor child is not only physically damaged for life, but mentally as well.
What a totally horrible thing. It makes me feel really bad.
I don't care what someone's beliefs are, there is absolutely no excuse for what they did!
They, and i'm not kidding, both should be sterilized! They have no business having children.
That poor child is not only physically damaged for life, but mentally as well.
What a totally horrible thing. It makes me feel really bad.
[Serious On Topic]I heard of this. Idiots. Couldn't they at least try a vitamin supplement or breast feeding? Or whatever it is that can make babies healthy (hardly an expert on this).[/Serious On Topic]
[Mindless Off Topic]I thought you might've meant something else when I saw that topic. Like what you can do with a celerey stick and plenty of peanut butter.
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[Mindless Off Topic]I thought you might've meant something else when I saw that topic. Like what you can do with a celerey stick and plenty of peanut butter.
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"The parents said their health improved after they restricted their diets and they hoped their child would benefit from eating similar foods."
Are these people retarded?
"Lawyers for the Swintons said the parents were unaware they were harming the child."
And yet:
"The defendants, despite pleas from many of their family and friends, arrogantly ignored warnings and never sought medical attention for their child,'' Brown said.
Poor kid, those dumbasses fucked her over for what could be the rest of her life. I hope they never get to see her again. They certaintly don't deserve to.
EDIT: Yes it's a girl, Spanky.
Are these people retarded?
"Lawyers for the Swintons said the parents were unaware they were harming the child."
And yet:
"The defendants, despite pleas from many of their family and friends, arrogantly ignored warnings and never sought medical attention for their child,'' Brown said.
Poor kid, those dumbasses fucked her over for what could be the rest of her life. I hope they never get to see her again. They certaintly don't deserve to.
EDIT: Yes it's a girl, Spanky.
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So mothers milk from the mother to the child isn't allowed under the Vegan diet?
I hope their fellow inmates turn them into red meat.
I hope their fellow inmates turn them into red meat.
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Um, FYI, Gnome, the child was a girl, not a boy...
I remember hearing about this, too. Is this a repeat report, or did something this horrible actually happen again just now?
I remember hearing about this, too. Is this a repeat report, or did something this horrible actually happen again just now?
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This is probably a stupid question, but what is the difference between a Vegin and a Vegetarian?
Ya know, my partner and I rarely eat meat, but that doesn't mean we'll turn down a fat juicy rare steak!
I can't get the mental images of that poor kid out of my mind. How can people get so caught up in a belief that is nearly kills thier own child? I just don't get it.
Ya know, my partner and I rarely eat meat, but that doesn't mean we'll turn down a fat juicy rare steak!
I can't get the mental images of that poor kid out of my mind. How can people get so caught up in a belief that is nearly kills thier own child? I just don't get it.
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Vegetarians don't eat meat (but some will eat chicken or fish).
Vegans don't eat anything that comes from an animal. This includes dairy products, meat, eggs, honey, geletin, etc...
Vegans don't eat anything that comes from an animal. This includes dairy products, meat, eggs, honey, geletin, etc...
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wait - doesnt vegetables and green things grow from animal shit?
ban veggies!!
oh, and I echo everyone's sentiments.
but, on a side note, I find the phrase, treated her like a gerbil, incredibly funny.
I am using it in future convos.
ban veggies!!
oh, and I echo everyone's sentiments.
but, on a side note, I find the phrase, treated her like a gerbil, incredibly funny.
I am using it in future convos.
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I was hoping this was something a LITTLE less severely fucked up than the Swinton case (like somebody getting harangued in a restaurant for eating a hamburger - at least in that case it's against an adult who's able to fight back, and not a defenseless child).Darth Garden Gnome wrote:"The parents said their health improved after they restricted their diets and they hoped their child would benefit from eating similar foods."
Are these people retarded?
"Lawyers for the Swintons said the parents were unaware they were harming the child."
And yet:
"The defendants, despite pleas from many of their family and friends, arrogantly ignored warnings and never sought medical attention for their child,'' Brown said.
Poor kid, those dumbasses fucked her over for what could be the rest of her life. I hope they never get to see her again. They certaintly don't deserve to.
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Just as a note....the ones in that exorcisim business its mentioned that they only got 4 years for actually killing thier son because of thier beliefs....these fuckers got longer than that....personally I think both should have got far far fucking longer....
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Yeah but the whole point of Veganism is not to take any food from animals, but isn't breastfeeding the exception to the rule/ The Milk IS MEANT FOR THE KiD! Did this lady wake up one day, start lactating and think, "what the fuck?" What did she think comes out of her teats, Rice Pudding?"Simon H.Johansen wrote:Depends on how extreme they are in their veganism.Darth Fanboy wrote:So mothers milk from the mother to the child isn't allowed under the Vegan diet?
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LOL!! As soon as I read that I got this mental pic of someone standing outside thowing popcorn chicken. Vegans then proceed to scream loudly and flail about, kinda like a drive by, only with animal instead of bullets.Col. Crackpot wrote:arrrgggghhhhh! bastards.
next time i see peta vegans at KFC i'll be sure to pelt them with popcorn chicken.
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"Oh look honey, she's so happy being vegan she doesnt want to go anywhere or even cry....it's really making her behave better."theheap wrote:My god! Shouldn't the fact that your CHILD CAN'T EVEN FUCKING CRY TIP YOU OFF. people are so stupid
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