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God Squad assholes!
Posted: 2003-06-03 09:49am
by Keevan_Colton
I'm just back from the Marilyn Manson gig at the Braehead arena....and it was fucking excellent....with the minor exception of the gang of christians outside shouting abuse and the like at the crowd. One poor kid has his arm broken by security because he was standing near the christians.....
I'd just like to thank everyone that's ever posted some of the contradictory shit from the bible....it proved most useful in talking thier resident preacher into the ground.
And I'd like to add again....the gig was fucking excellent.
Posted: 2003-06-03 10:16am
by Col. Crackpot
Dude, i'm all for pissing off christians, but Manson is nothing more than an opportunist. He doesn't give a shit one way or the other. He milks controversy for money, plain and simple. Oh how i long for the days of Black Sabbath........<sigh>
Posted: 2003-06-03 10:27am
by Keevan_Colton
I'm not praising him for the pissing of christians thing....the gig was good and the christians outside were fucking assholes....thanks to them some poor kid has a broken arm now.....they marched traight through the middle of the crowd waiting to get in....
Posted: 2003-06-03 10:28am
by Keevan_Colton
Also marching up and shouting
"God will punish you all for going to this!"
Is really a great way to start trying to convert people.
Posted: 2003-06-03 12:05pm
by Sriad
Boy, if I were there some folks would have got their eyeballs licked, lemme tell you.
Posted: 2003-06-03 12:21pm
by Stormbringer
Keevan_Colton wrote:Also marching up and shouting
"God will punish you all for going to this!"
Is really a great way to start trying to convert people.
Isn't it? I mean what better way to win people over than threats of hellfire and damnation?
Posted: 2003-06-03 12:57pm
by Keevan_Colton
Stormbringer wrote:
Isn't it? I mean what better way to win people over than threats of hellfire and damnation?
Its rather poor marketing strategy isnt it?
I mean, look at the norse mythos compared to the juedo-christian one....rather than eternal punishment for fucking up....you're offered eternal pissups and fun if you....have...pissups and fun....
Posted: 2003-06-03 01:54pm
by ben
Eddings noted this tendency for Pagan myth to be more entertaining than their Christian counterparts in the Rivan Codex.
Posted: 2003-06-03 08:31pm
by Striderteen
Keevan_Colton wrote:Also marching up and shouting
"God will punish you all for going to this!"
Is really a great way to start trying to convert people.
Yeah, lots of Christians are hypocritical asses with less brains than DarkStar. Not
all us are that bad though.
Posted: 2003-06-03 08:43pm
by Enforcer Talen
heh, sounds like fun, on both counts.
what songs he play?
Posted: 2003-06-03 09:05pm
by Keevan_Colton
Enforcer Talen wrote:heh, sounds like fun, on both counts.
what songs he play?
I cant recall them all of the top of my head, the best ones though were
Fight Song
Beautiful People
The Dope Show
Sweet Dreams
Tainted Love
and mOBSCENE (complete with dancers)
Posted: 2003-06-03 11:59pm
by Frank Hipper
I've gained a whole hell of lot more respect for Manson in recent years compared to when he came out with his first album. I used to think he was just an Alice Cooper wannabe, but he really is entertaining as hell.
Pun intended!
And why christians think they're on some crusade against the ultimate evil is beyond me. They are bands out there that really do worship the devil, you'd think that would set them off more. Not enough media attention, I suppose.
Posted: 2003-06-04 12:21am
by UltraViolence83
*SDN's Manson Fanatic begins to rant*
The reason why they fear and hate Manson so fucking much is that he's sincere with what he says. He knows what's wrong with the hardcore Christians and exploits it. The sad thing is that they don't even fucking realize they're helping him by giving him so much attention. You don't see them infiltrating and protesting Rob Zombie shows, do you? Cradle of Filth? Fucking Slayer?
Thing is that Manson's not a death metal band with repetitive "Kill yourself, worship Satan" lyrics being growled out like someone's trying to vomit out a cheese grater. He's been a chart-topper before (and recently #1 with The Golden Age Of Grotesque) while these guys are pretty much doomed to playing clubs or opening for Pantera or something. He gets nearer to the mainstream music demographic than any other "Satanic" band.
He's fucking been in the heart of their hypocrisy back in Christian school, now he exacted his revenge. Guess that's why his new album isn't very anti-religion as usual. Well that's my take on why he drives them nuts so badly.
Cannibal Corpse, on the other hand, I just don't know what the fuck their problem is.
Frank: His first album is the best!
*Rant ends*
Posted: 2003-06-04 12:22am
by Enforcer Talen
I prefer holywood, myself. mechanical animals and antichrist superstar take odd moods to listen to.
Posted: 2003-06-04 12:28am
by UltraViolence83
Actually I'd have to say that MA is probably his best album. Well for me anyway. I'm always in such a nihilistic cold machine drug world mood in which everyone else feels except me who only gets a hint of it.
Posted: 2003-06-04 12:33am
by Enforcer Talen
when its early dawn, and no one is awake, is when I play it.
white world with the rising of the sun works perfectly.
Posted: 2003-06-04 12:36am
by Enforcer Talen
Posted: 2003-06-04 01:56am
by EmperorMing
Striderteen wrote:Keevan_Colton wrote:Also marching up and shouting
"God will punish you all for going to this!"
Is really a great way to start trying to convert people.
Yeah, lots of Christians are hypocritical asses with less brains than DarkStar. Not
all us are that bad though.
Noted. It's just that when they do things like this, they are not helping the cause; more like hindering it.
Posted: 2003-06-04 02:38am
by Faram
Golden Nugget from one of those interviews.
Satanism had qualities in it that appealed to me, but so did Buddhism, Judaism, and even Catholicism -- particularly the wine-drinking part,
That hilarious
Posted: 2003-06-04 08:25am
by Col. Crackpot
UltraViolence83 wrote:*SDN's Manson Fanatic begins to rant*
The reason why they fear and hate Manson so fucking much is that he's sincere with what he says. He knows what's wrong with the hardcore Christians and exploits it. The sad thing is that they don't even fucking realize they're helping him by giving him so much attention. You don't see them infiltrating and protesting Rob Zombie shows, do you? Cradle of Filth? Fucking Slayer?
Thing is that Manson's not a death metal band with repetitive "Kill yourself, worship Satan" lyrics being growled out like someone's trying to vomit out a cheese grater. He's been a chart-topper before (and recently #1 with The Golden Age Of Grotesque) while these guys are pretty much doomed to playing clubs or opening for Pantera or something. He gets nearer to the mainstream music demographic than any other "Satanic" band.
He's fucking been in the heart of their hypocrisy back in Christian school, now he exacted his revenge. Guess that's why his new album isn't very anti-religion as usual. Well that's my take on why he drives them nuts so badly.
Cannibal Corpse, on the other hand, I just don't know what the fuck their problem is.
Frank: His first album is the best!
*Rant ends*
Manson is about as sincere as Wanda the the writer at the hallmark factory. now don't get me wrong, he pisses of christians (good) and he puts out decent music (good). but that is all. to cast him as some anti christian leader and antagonizer is bullshit. Marilyn Manson is a carefully designed marketing device, and the goth's swallow that bullshit whole.
Posted: 2003-06-04 09:51am
by Hethrir
I Loved Mansons cover of "Sweet Dreams"
Posted: 2003-06-04 10:20am
by Darth Gojira
Faram wrote:Golden Nugget from one of those interviews.
Satanism had qualities in it that appealed to me, but so did Buddhism, Judaism, and even Catholicism -- particularly the wine-drinking part,
That hilarious
Dionysus lives!
Posted: 2003-06-04 11:28am
by Peregrin Toker
UltraViolence83 wrote:The reason why they fear and hate Manson so fucking much is that he's sincere with what he says.
Actually, a lot of Norwegian Black Metal bands - (I suppose they are among those you call "bands with repetitive "Kill yourself, worship Satan" lyrics being growled out like someone's trying to vomit out a cheese grater") are also sincere about their occultism... why else do you think several members of Emperor have been in jail for burning churches??
Also, for some strange reason, the lower you get into the metal underground, the weirder (and less sane) the musicians get.