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Would you be ashamed of having to move home?

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:20pm
by TrailerParkJawa
Im planning on renting my condo out next month and moving back in with my dad. I will have to lease it for a year, because its too hard to find someone that wants month to month. The rental market is real soft now.

I have to do this, in order to not lose the the place. Intellectually, I think Im making a smart move. Emotionally, I feel like a fricking loser. Im 32, I should have a single family home, kids, and a wife by now. Yet Im having trouble hanging on to a little condo.

Just curious how you all would feel?

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:24pm
by Joe
I can't put myself in your situation, but I wouldn't feel too bad about it. Sometimes, you have to do things you don't really like when the economy sucks.

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:26pm
by Alex Moon
It's not necessarily a bad thing. If it's just a temperary thing because the financial situation is tight at the moment then it's nothing to worry about. Same if you're helping an older parent who may have health issues.

Now if you were moving in with them because you're a Trek/Wars/Anime/etc. geek and you're too lazy to find work then it would be sad. :P

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:36pm
by Zaia
Nah, it's temporary. Don't sweat it, dude. You're fine. :wink:

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:53pm
by thecreech
hey i have felt like you b4. Don't feel bad, just do what you need to do to survive.

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:55pm
by TrailerParkJawa
Zaia wrote:Nah, it's temporary. Don't sweat it, dude. You're fine. :wink:
Thanks all. If I find a renter and a job in just a few months, I can put all my rent money towards the principle of the loan. Im trying to find a silver lining here.

I finally understand why some people dream of winnnig the lottery.


:D

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:56pm
by Mark S
Do what you have to do. You know. Sometimes you have to pull back and regroup. Be happy you have a dad that can help you out and is willing to have you. Maybe this will even be an opportunity to make some cash off of the rent and figure out what you need to do.

Posted: 2003-06-05 10:57pm
by Captain Cyran
Alex Moon wrote:<snip>
you're too lazy to find work then it would be sad. :P
That would be my 30 year old brother, though he did recently move out once again. Hopefully he'll get his act together this time.

Posted: 2003-06-05 11:03pm
by TrailerParkJawa
Captain_Cyran wrote:
Alex Moon wrote:<snip>
you're too lazy to find work then it would be sad. :P
That would be my 30 year old brother, though he did recently move out once again. Hopefully he'll get his act together this time.
I stayed home till I was 31. But I always had a job during the 10 years I lived with my dad. He never pushed me out, I would have moved out 3-4 years earlier but the dot com boom made that impossible. It wasnt long ago when rental vacancies where 0%.

Posted: 2003-06-05 11:47pm
by neoolong
As long as your room isn't in the basement, you're fine.

Posted: 2003-06-05 11:53pm
by TrailerParkJawa
neoolong wrote:As long as your room isn't in the basement, you're fine.
:lol: Now you are making me laugh. What are you folks doing? Trying to make me feel better?

Actually my dad's new place is really nice, its quieter and has a/c.

Posted: 2003-06-05 11:56pm
by Drewcifer
TPJ, things are tough all over. People are moving back home in record numbers. I'm considering doing the same thing, to pay off some bills and to go back to school. I feel much the same way about it as you do. Almost all of my friends are married with children, and most of them have masters and PhDs. And then there's me, single, my only degree is in the school of hard knocks, and I may move home.

I keep trying to look at it as I'm doing what I have to do, and that it will be a means to an end.

If you get along ok with your Dad, I'd say go for it. No more stress of worrying about paying for your condo, you'll be saving tons of money, and in the long run, you get to keep your place.

Remember too, that people still live at home all over the world. And it wasn't that long ago that people did it in this country. I worked with several people from around the world that think us Americans are crazy for not living with our parents.

Posted: 2003-06-05 11:59pm
by Damaramu
As said earlier, it's a temporary thing, so it's no big deal. 8)

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:07am
by TrailerParkJawa
Drewcifer wrote:TPJ, things are tough all over. People are moving back home in record numbers. I'm considering doing the same thing, to pay off some bills and to go back to school. I feel much the same way about it as you do. Almost all of my friends are married with children, and most of them have masters and PhDs. And then there's me, single, my only degree is in the school of hard knocks, and I may move home.

I keep trying to look at it as I'm doing what I have to do, and that it will be a means to an end.

If you get along ok with your Dad, I'd say go for it. No more stress of worrying about paying for your condo, you'll be saving tons of money, and in the long run, you get to keep your place.

Remember too, that people still live at home all over the world. And it wasn't that long ago that people did it in this country. I worked with several people from around the world that think us Americans are crazy for not living with our parents.
I know we are spoiled in our culture. There are folks in some countries that would love to live in the kind of place I have, railroad tracks and all. Ive got lots of trees around, grass, cool breezes from the bay, etc.

I get along with my dad fine, but Ive notice we are a bit closer now that Im gone. I really should have moved out 3-4 years earlier, but as I said the dot com boom made that nearly impossible.

Re: Would you be ashamed of having to move home?

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:16am
by BrYaN19kc
TrailerParkJawa wrote:Im planning on renting my condo out next month and moving back in with my dad. I will have to lease it for a year, because its too hard to find someone that wants month to month. The rental market is real soft now.

I have to do this, in order to not lose the the place. Intellectually, I think Im making a smart move. Emotionally, I feel like a fricking loser. Im 32, I should have a single family home, kids, and a wife by now. Yet Im having trouble hanging on to a little condo.

Just curious how you all would feel?
Why do you FEEL you should have all those things? Heck with it. You need to do what YOU need to do, not what someone else thinks. A wife, two kids, a dog, a cat, and a goldfish are no longer the answer to the American Dream. It's kind of like living in the burbs - it's simply not the case any more. Most people who even believe there is an American Dream are fooling themselves. YOU do what YOU feel is necessary and to heck with the rest. These days, most of them are jealous they don't have the opportunity anyway.

Good luck to you, and believe me if I needed to move back with my dad (he is living the single life these days) I would in a minute and would be welcome.

After reading many of your posts, somehow, I really doubt you are gonig to have much of a problem. :)

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:21am
by Darth Wong
I think it's sad that in our society, peoples' self-worth is tied to the acquisition of property. If your father is rattling around in a big house by himself, it would be silly NOT to move in, wouldn't it? You can save a shitload of money, the property is otherwise going unused, etc. You're certainly not doing anyone any harm.

What's there to be ashamed of? Being smart enough to look for ways to optimize your income and expenses?

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:24am
by Drewcifer
TPJ wrote:I know we are spoiled in our culture....
Yeah, we are spoiled, but the point that many people have made to me is that family is important, and it seems that we've forgotten that here. One guy said it best, "You Americanos are locos. You have no respect for your familia, that why you all act so crazy."

I wouldn't be ashamed, you're doing what you have to.

Besides, you could tell people that you're a real estate investor on the side, and the condo is your first property. It's all how you look at it.

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:29am
by TrailerParkJawa
Darth Wong wrote: What's there to be ashamed of? Being smart enough to look for ways to optimize your income and expenses?
Its an emotional thing, I know. For some reason giving up my place makes me feel like Im not indepenent. When in reality Id be a landlord, and investing in my future. I guess I just lived at home long enough and really enjoy being out on my own. Its not like there are not hundreds, no thousands, other others in the same boat in Silicon Valley.

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:46am
by Darth Yoshi
Considering that I still haven't moved out of the house yet, no. Of course, I'm not even 17, so I'm not the best benchmark to use.

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:48am
by TrailerParkJawa
Darth Yoshi wrote:Considering that I still haven't moved out of the house yet, no. Of course, I'm not even 17, so I'm not the best benchmark to use.
Even though your not yet 17, your opinion is still welcome and appreciated.

Posted: 2003-06-06 12:49am
by neoolong
TrailerParkJawa wrote:
Darth Wong wrote: What's there to be ashamed of? Being smart enough to look for ways to optimize your income and expenses?
Its an emotional thing, I know. For some reason giving up my place makes me feel like Im not indepenent. When in reality Id be a landlord, and investing in my future. I guess I just lived at home long enough and really enjoy being out on my own. Its not like there are not hundreds, no thousands, other others in the same boat in Silicon Valley.
Think of it this way, you're a landlord renting to a person that happens to be related to you.

Posted: 2003-06-06 01:00am
by Hamel
When this quarter is over, I'm moving back to my parents' house. I live in my uncle's basement right now. Unfortunately, since there is literally no work where they live, and plenty of thieving criminals out in that country hellhole, I don't think I'll have my own residence for a loooong time.

I don't see why you should feel bad. People across the world live in homes where several generations share residence.

Re: Would you be ashamed of having to move home?

Posted: 2003-06-06 01:02am
by TrailerParkJawa
BrYaN19kc wrote: Good luck to you, and believe me if I needed to move back with my dad (he is living the single life these days) I would in a minute and would be welcome.

After reading many of your posts, somehow, I really doubt you are gonig to have much of a problem. :)
Part of the reason I FEEL I should have those things is because many of my peers do. But part of it, most of it, I would say is because getting my own condo here has been a goal for the last 5 years.

Posted: 2003-06-06 04:19am
by InnerBrat
One of my firends is just about to move in with his paretns at 34, as he's selling his curretn house (it was jointly owned with the bitch ex from Hell), and he's thinking fo going to university to.

It doensw't mean owt. If living with your dad is the best thing for you at the moment, then do it, you're fine!

Re: Would you be ashamed of having to move home?

Posted: 2003-06-06 03:15pm
by Enforcer Talen
TrailerParkJawa wrote:Im planning on renting my condo out next month and moving back in with my dad. I will have to lease it for a year, because its too hard to find someone that wants month to month. The rental market is real soft now.

I have to do this, in order to not lose the the place. Intellectually, I think Im making a smart move. Emotionally, I feel like a fricking loser. Im 32, I should have a single family home, kids, and a wife by now. Yet Im having trouble hanging on to a little condo.

Just curious how you all would feel?
I live at home, my dad lives at home, my uncle lives at home.

so, not really, no.