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homosexuality debate

Posted: 2003-06-06 11:14pm
by Enforcer Talen
hey people, quick note. sauren and I are dueling http://c hat.rr-bb.com/ in the apologetics forum about homosexuality, against what seems an entire horde from the rr forum. if you want to get involved, click the link.

Posted: 2003-06-06 11:37pm
by Sea Skimmer
I'm not touching it. Waste of time and energy in every respect.

Posted: 2003-06-06 11:39pm
by Enforcer Talen
true, true, but I have a friday night open.

Posted: 2003-06-06 11:41pm
by Sea Skimmer
Go get drunk, it would be more productive

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:08am
by Enforcer Talen
almost certainly. they have me in a private chat, trying to see what horrible event made me lose my faith. :lol:

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:38am
by neoolong
Enforcer Talen wrote:almost certainly. they have me in a private chat, trying to see what horrible event made me lose my faith. :lol:
Say that Osiris came to you in a vision and told you that he was real and that God wasn't. :D

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:40am
by Ghost Rider
neoolong wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:almost certainly. they have me in a private chat, trying to see what horrible event made me lose my faith. :lol:
Say that Osiris came to you in a vision and told you that he was real and that God wasn't. :D
Too easy...you first have to imply that your wee using your powers over you Ka and that in accessing your primordial memories, you found that Ishtar was your true Birth Mother and your destiny was to amongst the *Star Beings* who then showed you that Rama-Jove is your true God and that Yaweh is nothing more then your arch Nemesis.

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:48am
by neoolong
Ghost Rider wrote:
neoolong wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:almost certainly. they have me in a private chat, trying to see what horrible event made me lose my faith. :lol:
Say that Osiris came to you in a vision and told you that he was real and that God wasn't. :D
Too easy...you first have to imply that your wee using your powers over you Ka and that in accessing your primordial memories, you found that Ishtar was your true Birth Mother and your destiny was to amongst the *Star Beings* who then showed you that Rama-Jove is your true God and that Yaweh is nothing more then your arch Nemesis.
Where'd you steal that from? :D

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:48am
by weemadando
MOD! MOD MOD MOD FUCKING MOD!!!

Kill the fucking direct link amongst other things.

RR-BB is one of the BIGGEST BB's on the net and it is uniquely filled with the most virulent and idiotic fundies known to man. Throw this thread in storage or something before they check their link-through logs.

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:51am
by Saurencaerthai
Yes, perhaps it's a waste of time, but it amuses me, so I see no issue with it. :twisted:

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:52am
by Alyrium Denryle
I was banned from that place months ago for not accepting the bible as evidence.

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:56am
by Enforcer Talen
weemadando wrote:MOD! MOD MOD MOD FUCKING MOD!!!

Kill the fucking direct link amongst other things.

RR-BB is one of the BIGGEST BB's on the net and it is uniquely filled with the most virulent and idiotic fundies known to man. Throw this thread in storage or something before they check their link-through logs.
edited.

and, their forum wont let me post, just lurk :lol:

Posted: 2003-06-07 12:57am
by Ghost Rider
neoolong wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:
neoolong wrote: Say that Osiris came to you in a vision and told you that he was real and that God wasn't. :D
Too easy...you first have to imply that your wee using your powers over you Ka and that in accessing your primordial memories, you found that Ishtar was your true Birth Mother and your destiny was to amongst the *Star Beings* who then showed you that Rama-Jove is your true God and that Yaweh is nothing more then your arch Nemesis.
Where'd you steal that from? :D
Me on Vicodin :P

Seriously my brain is going through a nice loopy time.

Posted: 2003-06-07 01:04am
by neoolong
Sounds like a comic book or something. :P

Posted: 2003-06-07 01:06am
by Ghost Rider
neoolong wrote:Sounds like a comic book or something. :P
Hey I still write one...it's just currently on hiatus till we recieve funding...or well

funding(and a new inker)

Posted: 2003-06-07 02:08am
by Enforcer Talen
I have decided I need to know everything about the history of everything.

Posted: 2003-06-07 03:49am
by Enforcer Talen
oh god, 2 hrs of fending off conversion attempts. its like being penned in by 6 brick walls that keep pushing me around.

damn, Im tired.

Posted: 2003-06-07 05:42am
by Frank Hipper
Talen, what were you guys thinking? :shock:

Posted: 2003-06-07 06:23am
by jegs2
Okay, first I'll admit up front that I've not read the posts in this thread. However, it seems as though RaptureReady (or some members thereof) is involved in the debate, & I believe I can safely predict that some of them will point out that homosexuality (the act thereof) is immoral, based on the OT & NT of the Bible. From the Christian perspective, I believe that is correct. That being said, we should recognize that the US is not a Christian theocracy, & in my opinion true Christians are a minority. Thus, the law of the land is what applies to US citizens who do not swear their allegience to Christ. Thus, in the eyes of non-Christian US citizens, there can be nothing wrong with the act of homosexuality, & we as Christians should not try to impose our laws & beliefs on those outside the Faith.

Posted: 2003-06-07 06:53am
by Sir Sirius
Enforcer Talen wrote:almost certainly. they have me in a private chat, trying to see what horrible event made me lose my faith. :lol:
Well, actualy reading the bible pretty much did it for me.

Posted: 2003-06-07 11:05am
by Kelly Antilles
Ghost Rider wrote: Hey I still write one...it's just currently on hiatus till we recieve funding...or well

funding(and a new inker)
That's TRACER *giggle* :lol:

Posted: 2003-06-07 11:25am
by Ghost Rider
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote: Hey I still write one...it's just currently on hiatus till we recieve funding...or well

funding(and a new inker)
That's TRACER *giggle* :lol:
:P Ah Chasing Amy....all I need now is for one of my friends to be secretly gay and in love with me(though I believe that one may come true all too soon) and him to also ask a Black man what's a nubian.

Well of the three we did have...two were might have well been tracers :wink:

The one I dated...well she could draw very well...It would've been too much to throw Ariel overboard and hire her full time...

Posted: 2003-06-07 01:05pm
by Enforcer Talen
Sir Sirius wrote:
Enforcer Talen wrote:almost certainly. they have me in a private chat, trying to see what horrible event made me lose my faith. :lol:
Well, actualy reading the bible pretty much did it for me.
yeah, same here. I told these people for two hours the same thing, and they said I was consigned to hell becuase I didnt have faith, and that I had pharohs hardened heart.

they didnt seem to notice that that was kinda my point - god hardening hearts.

and, frank, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

"they couldnt actually be that blind, could they?"
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. . .
. . .
"alright, maybe they can."

they made 6 exceptions to natural law to their theory of the flood would work! :shock:

Posted: 2003-06-07 08:32pm
by Trytostaydead
Actually, there's a passage in the Bible about that.. forget where.. but it's about if you hear of it and don't accept it, your heart becomes hardened.. or something to that effect.

But asides from that.. homosexuality.. the great debate. Just got out of our homosexuality circuit in behvaior. Interesting stuff. We went over it from a scientific genetic basis for the most part and hit a few of the major studies. What it comes down to is this.. inconclusive at the best.

From a behavioral point of view, those that say homosexuality does not exist in the wild is only true to a certain extent. Homosexuality does and can exist, but usually only in a transient state. What we don't see if life-long committment to homosexuality or homosexual partnering in the wild.