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Gladiator
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:07pm
by Joe
I just watched this again the other day and was reminded how great it is. Later on I heard some guy rambling about how stupid it was and how it shouldn't have gotten the Oscar.
Why do people like to knock Gladiator so much? Sorry if this has been done before.
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:14pm
by Spanky The Dolphin
I personally don't like it that much, to tell you the truth.
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:14pm
by Gandalf
I don't really get the dislike either, I thought it was brilliant myself.
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:18pm
by Tsyroc
I like it but I can see where the Best Picture Oscar may have been pushing things a bit. I just assume it's one of those Karma things to make up for movies like Chicago and Shakespeare In Love winning.
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:20pm
by AdmiralKanos
It's violent, and it's a blockbuster. Those are both black marks in a typical critic's book, so they went into the theatre with a preconception, just LOOKING for excuses to attack it rather than simply watching the movie.
It's also a man's movie, and whether critics admit it or not, they derive a perverse sense of superiority from disliking anything that Joe Sixpack likes, particularly if it isn't sufficiently original for them.
Oh no, a vengeance theme! We've seen this before, so the movie sucks!
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:30pm
by lgot
I think it is just a movie that was well done. Ridley Scott sold his soul to make Blade Runner and since then just did not great stuff even if he is very careful.
It is odd, Because Crowe is a good actor, but he did very little in Gladiator...and the story is just nothing and the History much less...The emperor had the mindset of a Dragon Ball Z villain...
The big deal is the really awesome Rome...I think that is all and could have lasted 15 minutes then...
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:31pm
by Wicked Pilot
Well, I hate to be in the minority opinion with you people, but I really didn't enjoy the movie. I can't exactly put my finger on why this is just yet, but needless to say I haven't been able to sit back and watch the whole movie through with interest.
Posted: 2003-06-18 11:35pm
by HemlockGrey
I love it. I watch scenes from it every day.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:19am
by TrailerParkJawa
I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.
If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:22am
by Sea Skimmer
It was pretty good, but its not the sort of thing I'd buy
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:30am
by neoolong
TrailerParkJawa wrote:I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.
If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.
Wouldn't it just be her getting it on with her brother? Do you really want to see that?
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:32am
by Gandalf
neoolong wrote:TrailerParkJawa wrote:I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.
If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.
Wouldn't it just be her getting it on with her brother? Do you really want to see that?
Orgy scenes would have that, but you ignore the basic point, there are other people and they aren't related in RL anyway. That I know of.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:38am
by neoolong
Gandalf wrote:neoolong wrote:TrailerParkJawa wrote:I felt it was a decent movie, I didnt love it like my guy buddies. I kinda wish there was some gratuitous orgies or roman bath scenes. The sister of the emperor was so incredibly hot.
If its on cable I will watch it, but I wouldnt buy the DVD like I would for 5th Element.
Wouldn't it just be her getting it on with her brother? Do you really want to see that?
Orgy scenes would have that, but you ignore the basic point, there are other people and they aren't related in RL anyway. That I know of.
Bah. You just want to see breasts.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:40am
by Joe
You can see Connie Nielsen naked in The Devil's Advocate (and she looks as good naked as you'd imagine).
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:41am
by Spanky The Dolphin
I didn't find it to be that interesting, it was a little boring at times, wasn't violent enough, and I don't like how it was edited.
And gratuitous nudity and sex would have just padded the film even more than it already was with what it had.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:44am
by Anarchist Bunny
The movie just bored me, and the response that the movie got fertilized that boredom until it blossomed into a firery rose of hate.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:47am
by Frank Hipper
Not a bad flick, but I don't understand the raves it gets.
Posted: 2003-06-19 12:55am
by TrailerParkJawa
neoolong wrote:
Bah. You just want to see breasts.
Of course!
Durran Korr wrote:You can see Connie Nielsen naked in The Devil's Advocate (and she looks as good naked as you'd imagine).
I remember that scene. Wow!
Posted: 2003-06-19 01:38am
by Howedar
I thought it was pretty good.
Posted: 2003-06-19 01:43am
by Shadow WarChief
Frankly, I'm a little awe-struck that people don't like it more. Everything about the movie was fucking good! The only thing I would change would be to add in some of the cut scenes that help to show the black hole of humanity Commodus had become....
Posted: 2003-06-19 11:14am
by HemlockGrey
Yeah, I would have added in the cut scene where he orders the death of the two Praetorians. Then, when Quintus orders the Praetorians to sheath their swords during the final fight, and they obey, it would have been more obvious why.
Posted: 2003-06-19 11:58am
by irishmick79
The ending was fucking horrible. I'm sorry, but no Roman emperor in his right mind would have gotten into a sword fight with a gladiator. Even the insane ones knew better than to fuck around with gladiators.
Posted: 2003-06-19 03:09pm
by Batman
irishmick79 wrote:The ending was fucking horrible. I'm sorry, but no Roman emperor in his right mind would have gotten into a sword fight with a gladiator. Even the insane ones knew better than to fuck around with gladiators.
And how many of the insane ones did have personal grudges with said gladiator, and had openly defied by him before?
I found the fight fully in line with Commodus' personality.
Appear to be honorable and valiant, but rig the fight so there's no actual danger.
And lets face it, in the real world it would have worked.
I found the movie brilliant. The end damn near makes me cry, every time.
'Is Rome worth one good man's life?
We believed it once. Make us believe it again.
He was a soldier of Rome.Honor him.'
*sniff*
Posted: 2003-06-19 03:15pm
by thecreech
The movie was ok... I really thought that CT/HD should of won for best Picture. Gladiator just reminded me of braveheart to much. Guy who has loved one die, goes up against an evil king who killed loved one, finds love in another woman, both king and hero die in the end.
Posted: 2003-06-19 03:29pm
by irishmick79
I just think the emperor wouldn't have bothered with fighting Maximus himself. He had multiple ways of gruesome public execution he could have utilized instead. I strongly disagree that the fight would have been inline with Commodus's personality. Commodus did not like the taste of battle one bit, and went to great lengths to avoid it.