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Canada is fucking crazy

Posted: 2003-06-27 11:34pm
by Alyeska
I am going hiking in Canada tomorow and I just learned that Bear Spray is illegal. Sure you can own a firearm in Canada, but having Bear Spray is a crime it seems. I guess your expected to fend off an agressive bear inside a National Park with harsh language. :roll: At least in the US you can carry a freaking can of bear spray to keep the buggers off of you. I'd take my pistol up into Canada if that weren't illegal too since apparently foreigners can't be trusted with an unregistered gun when Canada can't even keep track of half of their own weapons under their registration system. :x

Posted: 2003-06-27 11:37pm
by Brother-Captain Gaius
Yeah, they're pretty damn silly up there. But we've got a lot of nonsensical laws here too, so there's not much room to complain.

Posted: 2003-06-27 11:38pm
by Sea Skimmer
The Canadian registration system is too busy calculating out its 44,000% over budget expenses to handle anything related to firearms at this time.

Re: Canada is fucking crazy

Posted: 2003-06-28 12:51am
by Graeme Dice
Alyeska wrote:I am going hiking in Canada tomorow and I just learned that Bear Spray is illegal. Sure you can own a firearm in Canada, but having Bear Spray is a crime it seems. I guess your expected to fend off an agressive bear inside a National Park with harsh language. :roll: At least in the US you can carry a freaking can of bear spray to keep the buggers off of you. I'd take my pistol up into Canada if that weren't illegal too since apparently foreigners can't be trusted with an unregistered gun when Canada can't even keep track of half of their own weapons under their registration system. :x
I'm not sure where you got that particular piece of information. You can only bring pepper spray into the country if it is specifically labelled as being used for bears only. It's a controlled substance, not an illegal one.

Posted: 2003-06-28 08:03am
by Darth Gojira
So THAT's what happened to our football(American football for you non-North Americans) team........... :lol:

Posted: 2003-06-28 10:35am
by Darth Wong
You can buy bear spray here in Canada. You just can't use it on people, that's all.

I don't know why so many Americans feel compelled to spread misinformation about Canadian rules. This one is nothing compared to the bullshit which is liberally spread about our health care system, but it's irksome nonetheless.

Posted: 2003-06-28 10:39am
by Next of Kin
That's funny..the hunting supply store down the road some for sale...fear not Alyeska...our Canadian bears are friendly and mostly drunk from discarded beer.

Posted: 2003-06-28 10:44am
by Singular Quartet
Next of Kin wrote:That's funny..the hunting supply store down the road some for sale...fear not Alyeska...our Canadian bears are friendly and mostly drunk from discarded beer.
Yes, but what if they're aggresive drunks?

Posted: 2003-06-28 10:49am
by Next of Kin
Singular Quartet wrote:
Yes, but what if they're aggresive drunks?
They're more like the Barney Gumble kinda drunk...just throw them some beer nuts and you'll be safe.

Posted: 2003-06-28 08:27pm
by YT300000
You know whats really fucked-up? I am a minor, and if I get a lisence, I can own a rifle. But not a handgun.

My dad can't have a pistol either. But he can have a rifle, a SMG, a carbine, even a fucking GPMG if he wanted one!

Posted: 2003-06-28 09:32pm
by Stuart Mackey
YT300000 wrote:You know whats really fucked-up? I am a minor, and if I get a lisence, I can own a rifle. But not a handgun.

My dad can't have a pistol either. But he can have a rifle, a SMG, a carbine, even a fucking GPMG if he wanted one!
In NZ you can have all kinds of rifles/MG's so long as you have the right licence and appropriate storage for them, but pisols are a interesting category.
Here to own a pistol you must activly compete in shooting competions, about 5 times a year or your pistol licence gets revoked. This is not true of other categories of firearm.

Posted: 2003-06-28 09:38pm
by neoolong
YT300000 wrote:You know whats really fucked-up? I am a minor, and if I get a lisence, I can own a rifle. But not a handgun.

My dad can't have a pistol either. But he can have a rifle, a SMG, a carbine, even a fucking GPMG if he wanted one!
Isn't it usually that handguns are more used in crimes and they want to somehow limit that?

Posted: 2003-06-28 10:05pm
by YT300000
neoolong wrote:
YT300000 wrote:You know whats really fucked-up? I am a minor, and if I get a lisence, I can own a rifle. But not a handgun.

My dad can't have a pistol either. But he can have a rifle, a SMG, a carbine, even a fucking GPMG if he wanted one!
Isn't it usually that handguns are more used in crimes and they want to somehow limit that?
That part makes sense. The part that doesn't is that if I got a lisence, I could own an M16-K, a G-11, shit, even an M-134 and the government wouldn't give a shit. But an M-9, no...

Posted: 2003-06-28 11:00pm
by Andrew J.
Bears are pretty much harmless anyway, right? They're not really agressive towards humans, IIRC.

Posted: 2003-06-28 11:03pm
by Mark S
Andrew J. wrote:Bears are pretty much harmless anyway, right? They're not really agressive towards humans, IIRC.
Where, exactly, did you hear that?

Posted: 2003-06-29 12:20am
by Slartibartfast
YT300000 wrote:
neoolong wrote:
YT300000 wrote:You know whats really fucked-up? I am a minor, and if I get a lisence, I can own a rifle. But not a handgun.

My dad can't have a pistol either. But he can have a rifle, a SMG, a carbine, even a fucking GPMG if he wanted one!
Isn't it usually that handguns are more used in crimes and they want to somehow limit that?
That part makes sense. The part that doesn't is that if I got a lisence, I could own an M16-K, a G-11, shit, even an M-134 and the government wouldn't give a shit. But an M-9, no...
Being able to own a rifle and not a pistol makes sense, specially since concealing a pistol is much easier. But the SMG part is kinda stupid, these are nearly as small as pistols... well, some are. OTOH none that I know fit in your pocket, but most pistols do.

Posted: 2003-06-29 01:28am
by ArmorPierce
Mark S wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:Bears are pretty much harmless anyway, right? They're not really agressive towards humans, IIRC.
Where, exactly, did you hear that?
It's part right. Bears could be dangerous especially if it is a mother with young or it doesn't fear humans because they associated humans as a source of food.

Posted: 2003-06-29 01:53am
by Darth Wong
ArmorPierce wrote:
Mark S wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:Bears are pretty much harmless anyway, right? They're not really agressive towards humans, IIRC.
Where, exactly, did you hear that?
It's part right. Bears could be dangerous especially if it is a mother with young or it doesn't fear humans because they associated humans as a source of food.
There was a young couple out in the woods around here a while ago that saw a bear approaching their camp, so they idiotically grabbed their food and dragged it inside their tent. Naturally, the bear continued to approach their tent, so they broke and ran for it.

Let's just say that the faster runner of the two survived.

Posted: 2003-06-29 01:58am
by neoolong
Andrew J. wrote:Bears are pretty much harmless anyway, right? They're not really agressive towards humans, IIRC.
Do you need to be reminded of when a polar bear used a submarine as a chew toy?

Posted: 2003-06-29 02:46pm
by Lonestar
Darth Wong wrote:You can buy bear spray here in Canada. You just can't use it on people, that's all.

I don't know why so many Americans feel compelled to spread misinformation about Canadian rules. This one is nothing compared to the bullshit which is liberally spread about our health care system, but it's irksome nonetheless.
Wait....isn't it a law to wear flannel and have a dog sled team there? Or am I thinking of Minnesota?

:wink:

Posted: 2003-06-29 03:49pm
by Sir Sirius
:wtf: BEAR spray? WTF is bear spray?

Posted: 2003-06-29 03:53pm
by Faram
Sir Sirius wrote::wtf: BEAR spray? WTF is bear spray?
Some sort of pepper spray I think. BTW that's illegal in Sweden and most probebly in Finland and Norway also.

Posted: 2003-06-29 03:55pm
by Sea Skimmer
Sir Sirius wrote::wtf: BEAR spray? WTF is bear spray?
Basically a form of pepper spray you use on bears if they charge you.

Posted: 2003-06-29 05:05pm
by Dillon
Sir Sirius wrote::wtf: BEAR spray? WTF is bear spray?
AFAIK it's pretty much the same thing as pepper spray, it's just called bear spray.

Posted: 2003-06-30 07:42am
by Darth Gojira
Sir Sirius wrote::wtf: BEAR spray? WTF is bear spray?
What visiting football teams use to keep our football team from winning. :D