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What's your idea of a bad plane?

I say the Christmas Bullet, an airplane claimed by it's designer to be the "fastest" and "safest" in the world.

It was designed so that it's wings would "flap", like a bird's, but in actuality, they merely broke off shortly after take-off! There is speculation whether or not Dr. Christmas got his doctorate from a mail-order diploma mill. After killing two army test pilots with this monstrosity, he successfully got re-imbursed for thousands of dollars, and died an old man, with money in his pockets.
Criminal.

Others in the Really Bad list include:

The Caproni Ca 60, a NINE winged houseboat that got about 20ft into the air before breaking up. And Count Caproni built such good planes,normally.

The Yokosuka MXY-7 Okha, unlike the Chrstmas Bullet, the pilots of this human guided missile knew it was designed to kill them.

The Bachem 349 Natter, another pilot killer that, thankfully, never saw service. Look familiar, Wing Commander film fans???

Any more?

The Christmas Bullet actually flew, albeit only for a moment before it crashed. Assuming we limit ourselves to aircraft that flew or could have flown at least briefly (else we get all kinds of shitty pieces of shit from 1904), then I'd say:

The Bullet
The Ca-60
The Blackburn Blackburn II
The Brewster Buffalo

Never heard of the Blackburn Blackburn II.

But the Brewster Buffalo, what a turd!

The Concorde, not so much for being a bad plane (it wasn't), but for being a stupid idea and a gigantic waste of money.

Frank Hipper wrote:Never heard of the Blackburn Blackburn II.

It was a British torpedo bomber spotter carrier aircraft o' doom. Had like 120HP. Sad piece of shit.



Oh, almost forgot the Me-323 (I think it was) - that German cargo glider that got turned into a powered aircraft.

The one I will die on.

Delta, I know it's an airline not a specific plane, but those seats are TOO FUCKING SMALL!

I can't believe nobody mentioned the Osprey!

Most of the really bad aircraft weren't bad from the outset but were just kept in service long after their time had passed, like the Fairy Battle.
The internal fuel fraction problem with the F/A-18 was pretty embarrassing, if it's true. The original YF-17 prototype had a very limited fuel load because it was only intended to be a demonstrator. When the aircraft was scaled up to become the Hornet, the fuel payload was alledgedly never enlarged, explaining the limited range that has always been the one serious complaint about the F-18.

Frank Hipper wrote:Never heard of the Blackburn Blackburn II.
But the Brewster Buffalo, what a turd!

The Buffalo actually did pretty good in a few instances. For example, The Finnish like them when they used them against the Russians

Howedar wrote: The Brewster Buffalo

The B-239 has a 26:1 K/D ratio

the fairy battle and the defiant are far worse.

Frank Hipper wrote: The Bachem 349 Natter, another pilot killer that, thankfully, never saw service. Look familiar, Wing Commander film fans???

You sure you didn't mean Return to Castle Wolfenstein fans? It's exactly the same as the Bachem 317 Kobra.

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:

Frank Hipper wrote: The Bachem 349 Natter, another pilot killer that, thankfully, never saw service. Look familiar, Wing Commander film fans???

You sure you didn't mean Return to Castle Wolfenstein fans? It's exactly the same as the Bachem 317 Kobra.

No, it looks almost exactly like the fighters seen int he film. Which is the reason its in space. In space, aero-dynamics don't matter.

Kitsune wrote:

Frank Hipper wrote:Never heard of the Blackburn Blackburn II.
But the Brewster Buffalo, what a turd!

The Buffalo actually did pretty good in a few instances. For example, The Finnish like them when they used them against the Russians

Indeed.

Finnish Buffalos had 478 confirmed kills in 1941-44, and only 23 were lost. The best Brewster pilot was Captain Hans Wind, who shot down 39 Soviet planes with his Buffalo, before changing his aircraft to Messerschmitt Bf 109G.

Frank Hipper wrote: Others in the Really Bad list include:

The Caproni Ca 60, a NINE winged houseboat that got about 20ft into the air before breaking up. And Count Caproni built such good planes,normally.

LMAO

The Yokosuka MXY-7 Okha, unlike the Chrstmas Bullet, the pilots of this human guided missile knew it was designed to kill them.

Where's the air intake on this thing? Is it rocket-propelled then? Doesn't look too bad, what was wrong with it?

The Bachem 349 Natter, another pilot killer that, thankfully, never saw service. Look familiar, Wing Commander film fans???

Were those wings meant to fold up like that?

JodoForce wrote:

Frank Hipper wrote: The Yokosuka MXY-7 Okha, unlike the Chrstmas Bullet, the pilots of this human guided missile knew it was designed to kill them.

Where's the air intake on this thing? Is it rocket-propelled then? Doesn't look too bad, what was wrong with it?

There were actually two versions of the Ohka. One was rocket propelled, and the other had a weird jet engine. Oh, and it was designed for pure kamikaze work. It had a 1200 kg warhead in the nose.

Darth Gojira wrote:I can't believe nobody mentioned the Osprey!

Clearly someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

Howedar wrote:

Darth Gojira wrote:I can't believe nobody mentioned the Osprey!

Clearly someone doesn't know what they're talking about.

If the Osprey isn't among the worst projects the US military has produced lately, I don't know what is.

As for Concorde, some could say that going to the Moon was also pointless, the Concorde idea was just as hard as making a Moon flight but like stated, the concept didn't appeal to the mass market and cost too much. It was more a stunt than anything else.

Admiral Valdemar wrote: If the Osprey isn't among the worst projects the US military has produced lately, I don't know what is.

By all means it has not gone smoothly. But "worst aircraft in the world" is a bit of a stretch.

Oberleutnant wrote:Indeed.

Finnish Buffalos had 478 confirmed kills in 1941-44, and only 23 were lost. The best Brewster pilot was Captain Hans Wind, who shot down 39 Soviet planes with his Buffalo, before changing his aircraft to Messerschmitt Bf 109G.

I believe that's more of a measure of the pilots than the planes they were flying. Then there's the quality of the opposition to consider, also.

The current mainstay of the RCAF is pretty bad.

YT300000 wrote:The current mainstay of the RCAF is pretty bad.

http://www.tcd.ie/Physics/History/Fitzg ... 1small.jpg

I tought that was the French air force.

The Sänger Amerika Bomber





A sub orbital manned aircraft that would fly around the earth at 13000mph often accelerating at dozens of g's, the Germans thought a pilot could withstand 20, to drop a single bomb onto an American city.

I forget the exact name of the jet in question, but I remember hearing about an Airbus jet that gave the autopilot the ability to take complete control over the aircraft, and could even lockout the pilot. I remember it crashed during a test flight or expo.