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Assume you're in charge of acquiring a main battle tank for some unspecified country, and that the following are all available in the same quantity and at the same cost. The only deciding factor is quality.

* American M1A2 Abrams
* British Challenger 2
* German Leopard 2
* French LeClerc Mk 2
* Russian T-90
* Something else I overlooked

Which do you choose?

I voted for the Leopard 2.

I feel a quite big argument coming up....

American quality, hmm there is an oxymoron. Or german engineering.

Leo all the way for me.

Yeah the Leopard 2. Better, stronger, faster.

Leo 2, more specifically the Swedish variant Stridsvagn 122.

Sir, you took the words out of my mouth!

This subject has been discussed on this board several times, though.

The Leo-2 is a better singular tank while the M1A2 is a better tank in large formations. In other words the Leo-2 works for the German needs perfectly as does the M1A2 for the United States.

Sir Sirius wrote:Leo 2, more specifically the Swedish variant Stridsvagn 122.

Leopard 2A6 is a beter tank than the Strv 122. Just for the longer main gun with the new ammunition

Sturmpanzerwagen A7V.

Oh, wait. Current. *hangs head and walks out of thread*


The A7V was never the best, even when on the drawing board, just trying to be funny.

M1A2 due to its datalinking, even though the L2A6 is a better tank.

I like the Type-90 tank, but I have no legitimate reasons for that and I'm sure an Abrams tank would kill it.

Challanger II because ... my friend drives one.

phongn wrote:M1A2 due to its datalinking, even though the L2A6 is a better tank.

SRTV 122 has datalinking.

Swedish Link

Unikt för Strv 122 är dess ledningsstödsystem (LSS), vilket möjliggör digital kommunikation mellan vagnarna i det egna förbandet. Man kan t ex överföra text, bild och radioinformation.

Translation:

Uniqe for strv 122 is it's controlsystem witch make it possible to communicate digitally betveen tanks in it's own outfit. You can as an example transfer text, images and radio.

Couldn't any tank easily be equipped with such capability by having a laptop computer w/ wifi transmitter inside it?

Faram wrote:

phongn wrote:M1A2 due to its datalinking, even though the L2A6 is a better tank.

SRTV 122 has datalinking.

Any clue how it compares with IVIS?

T-90 of course, it's cheap to produce and maintain, and has a decent main gun.

phongn wrote:Any clue how it compares with IVIS?

Nope

M2B! Go plastic tanks!

Hey, thats not on the list!

Okay this makes three times this question has been asked, and I'm pretty sure the first time was Prawn as well.

I like the Type-90 tank, but I have no legitimate reasons for that and I'm sure an Abrams tank would kill it.

The Type 90 is a massively over priced piece of junk, the only decent feature is the gun which is a licensed produced version of the same Rheinmetall used by early Leo2's.

As a German, I have to uphold the firm believe in German engineering superiority.

Go, Leo, go!

Dahak wrote:
Go, Leo, go!

To the scrap yard!

*Tens of thousands of SFW submunitions rain down to wipe out every Leopold 2 tank in existence. A Stryker hoard rounds up the retreating crews*

Leo2A6, followed closely by the M1.

Aware in the irony, I shall insist:

M1A2 uber alles

Which is not to say that the Leo2 is a bad tank....it is an excellent tank.... but the M1A2 is the best.

Vympel wrote:

Sir Sirius wrote:Leo 2, more specifically the Swedish variant Stridsvagn 122.

Leopard 2A6 is a beter tank than the Strv 122. Just for the longer main gun with the new ammunition

Ah yes, I forgot the L55.

Was it me before? I don't think so. Maybe I'll search later. Anyway, no love for the Challenger?