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A question about 'black helicopters'

Posted: 2003-07-21 03:02am
by Drewcifer
I was curious why so many people joke about the infamous 'black helicopters'. Is there a specific urban legend about one, or is it a generalized joke about conspiracy theories/ists?

The reason I ask is because several years ago I helped build a house way out in the hills of Tennessee, a big house on a bluff overlooking the Cumberland River. Once or twice a week, a helicopter, painted jet-black, with no markings whatsoever, would fly low over the river late in the afternoon. I remember thinking, "hmm, they do exist," but never giving it much more thought.

Years later, enter sdnet, and people joke about black helicopters here. I've never heard any speak of them in anything but a joking tone (here or elsewhere), and was curious about the origin of the humour.

TIA :)

Posted: 2003-07-21 03:08am
by Darth Wong
Conspiracy nutjobs believe that the UN has a secret army and a huge force of black helicopters which will swoop in and seize control of the Continental United States in order to establish the New World Order that is prophesied by the Book of Revelations, prior to judgement day, the coming of the Antichrist, yadda yadda yadda.

Posted: 2003-07-21 03:14am
by Howedar
Thats the black helicopter bit? I thought it tied in with the CIA or something.

Posted: 2003-07-21 03:14am
by XaLEv
Everyone has Black Helicopters. Except you.

Shiver.

Posted: 2003-07-21 03:22am
by Drewcifer
Interesting. I figured it was similar to UFOs and such, not something specific per se, but a whole gang of stories.

We always thought that the 'copter we saw was the DEA, looking for marijuana, TN's biggest cash crop. Every few months, someone was getting busted with huge grow operations, some indoors, some not.

Posted: 2003-07-21 03:37am
by Darth Wong
Howedar wrote:Thats the black helicopter bit? I thought it tied in with the CIA or something.
It does. The conspiracy nutjobs believe that the entire US government is already infiltrated by this AntiChrist-led UN organization, and that the more shadowy organizations like the CIA are already in the service of the New Order.

Posted: 2003-07-21 04:04am
by Trytostaydead
Darth Wong wrote:
Howedar wrote:Thats the black helicopter bit? I thought it tied in with the CIA or something.
It does. The conspiracy nutjobs believe that the entire US government is already infiltrated by this AntiChrist-led UN organization, and that the more shadowy organizations like the CIA are already in the service of the New Order.
Eh? I always thought the Black Helicopters were kind of the MIB thing, part of the UFO conspiracy cover-ups and such.

Posted: 2003-07-21 04:09am
by Grand Moff Yenchin
I once saw a show on Discovery about the helicopters connected with cattle mutilations. A theory was that in areas which had nuclear weapon tests, some organization was using the 'copters as transport and laser cutters to sample animal tissues. :shock: :roll: :?

Posted: 2003-07-21 04:11am
by BlkbrryTheGreat
Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:I once saw a show on Discovery about the helicopters connected with cattle mutilations. A theory was that in areas which had nuclear weapon tests, some organization was using the 'copters as transport and laser cutters to sample animal tissues. :shock: :roll: :?
Yea... thats much easier then buying a few cows..... Its shit like this that gives conpiracies a bad name, e ven though some of them are prefectly plausible and have evidence to support them.

Posted: 2003-07-21 04:41am
by Drewcifer
hehaw, I almost forgot, from Coyote's sig:

I am somebody's Black Helicopter

:D

Posted: 2003-07-21 04:49am
by Shinova
Black helicopters are like black un-marked vans and black sedans and suvs. They're all indicative of some secret government or black ops thing.

For example, if I said I were coming in with my black helicopter to abduct <insert SDnet member here>, it's a jab with a slight black ops, government conspiracy spiced to it. :wink:

Posted: 2003-07-21 04:50am
by KhyronTheBackstabber
Black helicopters are connected to a lot of things. The NWO, UFOs, MIB, cattle mutilations, crop circles, Chupacabras , and I remember a Bigfoot sighting that involved one.

Re: A question about 'black helicopters'

Posted: 2003-07-21 05:01am
by Sea Skimmer
Drewcifer wrote:
The reason I ask is because several years ago I helped build a house way out in the hills of Tennessee, a big house on a bluff overlooking the Cumberland River. Once or twice a week, a helicopter, painted jet-black, with no markings whatsoever, would fly low over the river late in the afternoon. I remember thinking, "hmm, they do exist," but never giving it much more thought.
Likely US Army Special Forces running around. They use a huge chunk of the South and Midwest for training operations, flying from one military base to the other to simulation insertions and missions. There MH-60's are generally not painted all black, but will look it in poor lighting. Though they generally fly in pairs.

Posted: 2003-07-21 06:22am
by Robert Treder
I want to know just who these conspiracy nutjobs think are filling the ranks of all these various secret armies. Where do they all live? Who pays them? Where can I sign up?

Posted: 2003-07-21 06:25am
by Companion Cube
Robert Treder wrote:I want to know just who these conspiracy nutjobs think are filling the ranks of all these various secret armies. Where do they all live? Who pays them? Where can I sign up?
Thats a good point. Maybe I should try looking up my local Majestic 12 recruiting office... :D

Posted: 2003-07-21 06:35am
by Robert Treder
3rd Impact wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:I want to know just who these conspiracy nutjobs think are filling the ranks of all these various secret armies. Where do they all live? Who pays them? Where can I sign up?
Thats a good point. Maybe I should try looking up my local Majestic 12 recruiting office... :D
I'm fuckin' sayin'. I wouldn't mind being a soldier for the UN (and not one of those dopey bluehats on loan from member countries). That would kick ass.

And as far as the conspiracy retards go, the fact that they dream up such armies is pretty funny, because it strikes me as immensely childish. They find no problem with having hordes of nameless, faceless enemies, like you would find in a video game or bad action movie.

Re: A question about 'black helicopters'

Posted: 2003-07-22 02:38am
by Drewcifer
Sea Skimmer wrote:Likely US Army Special Forces running around. They use a huge chunk of the South and Midwest for training operations, flying from one military base to the other to simulation insertions and missions. There MH-60's are generally not painted all black, but will look it in poor lighting. Though they generally fly in pairs.
hmm. I looked up some MH-60's on google. Didn't look quite right, but then again, we were on top of a 300' bluff, looking down at the river (and the 'copter), and, we were looking south, into the late afternoon winter sun, so it's hard to say exactly. I'm sure there were no markings though -- at least discernable from 1/4 mile away -- is that common for certain military aircraft?

I'm sure it was military or DEA or something, I was just curious.

Posted: 2003-07-22 03:23am
by Admiral Johnason
I can neither confirm nor deny their existance in the US or NATO.

Posted: 2003-07-22 05:11am
by Peregrin Toker
I think some of the unmarked black helicopters are ordinary privately-owned helicopters who happens to be painted black.

Others are probably very dark green militiary 'copters, since dark green can be mistaken for black in certain conditions.

Re: A question about 'black helicopters'

Posted: 2003-07-22 08:30am
by Sea Skimmer
Drewcifer wrote:
hmm. I looked up some MH-60's on google. Didn't look quite right, but then again, we were on top of a 300' bluff, looking down at the river (and the 'copter), and, we were looking south, into the late afternoon winter sun, so it's hard to say exactly. I'm sure there were no markings though -- at least discernable from 1/4 mile away -- is that common for certain military aircraft?

I'm sure it was military or DEA or something, I was just curious.
Some Special Forces helicopters basically have their markings painted over for low visibility. But at a quarter mile you should be able to pick something out of regular army or law enforcement aircraft. Though most Police/DEA/FBI helicopters are fairly lightly colored anyway.

Posted: 2003-07-22 04:35pm
by phongn
Does the DEA even use the H-60? I've never heard of one in civilian service.

Posted: 2003-07-22 07:01pm
by Wicked Pilot
Everybody knows it was a black helicopter that killed JFK.

Posted: 2003-07-22 07:19pm
by DPDarkPrimus
Wicked Pilot wrote:Everybody knows it was a black helicopter that killed JFK.
A black helicopter that was utilizing it's VTOL capabilities while taking off, using it's active cloak technology and sound sponge, to hide it and make it invisible.

Posted: 2003-07-22 07:36pm
by Wicked Pilot
DPDarkPrimus wrote:A black helicopter that was utilizing it's VTOL capabilities while taking off, using it's active cloak technology and sound sponge, to hide it and make it invisible.
I think someone knows a little too much for their own good.



*descretely places phone call

Posted: 2003-07-22 07:41pm
by Montcalm
Answering call i`m on my way to pick-up DPDarkPrimus. :wink: