Would...

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 06:44pm

...China succeed in invading the U.S. with its current military?

Azeron · Post by **Azeron** » 2002-09-22 06:44pm

Yes it would.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 06:46pm

This is Azeron speaking, right?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-09-22 06:47pm

They could overwhelm us with billions of young men armed with cheaply made rifles

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-09-22 06:47pm

And migs, dont forget the migs

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 06:51pm

They don't have billions of soldiers. They have millions. But not billions.

Azeron · Post by **Azeron** » 2002-09-22 06:53pm

they also developed kung fu and would charge at our lines in human waves. Our machine guns and a-10 warthogs are no match for them, nor will our f-22 raptors be a match for there flankers or mig30's.

Lets face it, with the power of the spirts and philosophy of Sung Zu on thier side, how can we expect our 14 airdraft battle groups keep the chinese dingy's from crossing the pacfic and landing in cali?

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 06:54pm

...tactical nukes...

Azeron · Post by **Azeron** » 2002-09-22 06:55pm

Lets not forget they will have millions of fishing boats crossing the atlantic. If they charge our Ageis Missle Cruisers in human-boat wanve tactics, they will be overwhelmed.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 06:56pm

Oh yeah and fuel air bombs....and B-52s.......and M-1A2s.......

Why is our Air Force inferior to theirs?

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-09-22 06:56pm

Azeron wrote:Lets not forget they will have millions of fishing boats crossing the atlantic. If they charge our Ageis Missle Cruisers in human-boat wanve tactics, they will be overwhelmed.

Now I get it! You're being sarcastic!

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-09-22 06:58pm

I think it's safe to presume China would be kicked out of existance if tried to invade the states. What about the reverse? would the U.S be able to invade China [no nukes!]

RayCav of ASVS · Post by **RayCav of ASVS** » 2002-09-22 07:01pm

The Chinese don't have MiGs. They have cheap MiG knock-offs.

But they do have some good planes.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 07:02pm

I don't know. I guess maybe if we used our bombers to destroy everything they had, and THEN land ground forces just to take over the useless land, then yeah.

Azeron · Post by **Azeron** » 2002-09-22 07:02pm

How dare you charge that me Azeron, dark lord of the internet -- am not scinere!!! don't you see how easy it would be for China to amass the 100 million troops needed, assemble the required naval forces it has (basically fishing boats) and somehow manage to get all there fighters accross the pacific, all while battleing a fierce and determined american navy doing everything in its power to prevent an invasion of the Homeland?

Can't you see how blindingly obvious that war is evolving to get rid of technology, training, logistics, air support , and amassing large groups of illiterate peasents to fight war? Isn't that how the US won in afganistan so easily?

RadiO · Post by **RadiO** » 2002-09-22 07:04pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:They could overwhelm us with billions of young men armed with cheaply made rifles.

And migs, dont forget the migs

But how do the young guys with rifles and MiGs get to the States? How are they re-supplied when they get there? How do the 1950s MiG-17/21 clones that still form the bulk of the PLAAF avoid being boo-booed by defending fighters with the advantages of weapon + sensor range, support from systems like AWACS, and (in extremis) friendly territory for their pilots to eject into, and thus continue the fight? What do the Chinese grunts do once a presidential order grants the US Army permission to use chemical agents to stop the Red Tide? How does the PLA Navy stop USN carrier groups from clearing Chinese ships from American waters and then providing close air support to troops near the coast?
If China really could mount an invasion of this magnitude, it would have already invaded and re-occupied the ROC in mere days. They haven't.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 07:04pm

ROFLMFAO

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-09-22 07:05pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:...China succeed in invading the U.S. with its current military?

HELL NO! Think about it: China can't even take over Taiwan, much less invade the United States.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-09-22 07:06pm

That was to Azeron, btw.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-09-22 07:13pm

They could. Maybe. If the Bering Strait was re-formed.

Azeron · Post by **Azeron** » 2002-09-22 07:14pm

They would be better off booking fares on Delta.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-09-22 07:53pm

Azeron wrote:They would be better off booking fares on Delta.

Azeron, forcing anyone to fly Delta Airlines on a trans-Pacific flight is a violation of the Geneva Conventions.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-09-22 07:53pm

Cyril wrote:They could. Maybe. If the Bering Strait was re-formed.

Even then, they'd have to fight their way through Siberia.

Azeron · Post by **Azeron** » 2002-09-22 07:59pm

You are right on that, but I don't think Jet Blue does service to/fro China yet.

Oh well its better than "Transair". (BTW that used to be Valuejets, but its planes kept on crashing due to poor mantainence so they changed the name hoping people would forget how many people died, they have)

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2002-09-22 08:14pm

Azeron wrote:You are right on that, but I don't think Jet Blue does service to/fro China yet.

Oh well its better than "Transair". (BTW that used to be Valuejets, but its planes kept on crashing due to poor mantainence so they changed the name hoping people would forget how many people died, they have)

Wrong. ValueJet crashed because of an oxygen fire (there were a bunch of canisters shipped when they weren't supposed to me). They renamed themseves as AirTran and have been quite succesful. I've flown them several times and I've no complaints - their new Boeing 717s are quite decent.

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