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I'm wondering how everyone feels about rap music. I don't like it, but I'm probably in the minority. What do you think about it?

I despise it.

~ver

Favorite kind of music but I don't think it's awesome just okay.

It is short for CRAP

I have to admit some rap is catchy, but overall I do not like it. As I get older and ahem...more mature...I find rap to be annoying. I like to call it go no where music. If you embrace rap culture you will go nowehere except the poor house or jail.

Hell the Fuck No!

I like quite a few bands who delve into rap, but at least they pull it off pretty good. 'Mainstream' rap is almost always a buncha dissonant noise made by racist misogynistic no-talent terrorist gangster fucktards who can't get their minds off killing and terrorizing...

It's off the hizzle, yo.

Seriously, I'm not a fan for the most part. Some of it's pretty cool, though. If I have to chose between Eminem and, say, the Ataris, I'll listen to Eminem.

I would guess that most of the folks here hate rap, categorically.

I don't care for most of it myself. Most rap sounds all the same to me. Although I do think that rap can be and sometimes is a valid form of artistic expression, much of it truly is the same repetitive cRap. Ok, so you got a Mac and a ho and you're a badass. Got it. What else you got going on?

That said, there is some rap that I do like. Some of the political rap of the early 70's (that The Revolution Will Not Be Televised song, for example), Run DMC and Public Enemy from the 80's, and some other smatterings from here and there. (hehe I even like some of Eminem's stuff too)

Hate it, cant stand most of it, but still rank it slightly above country and dance. But i do think that some rap can be considered valid music--what you hear on the radio is a bunch of money driven pop-culture bullshit, sung by endless parades of people who have no business calling themselves artists and are either actual undeductaed, ex-con drug dealers or they want to be uneductaed ex-con drug dealer (which is beyond me).
I have heard some underground rap, where it still has some meaning, like all forms of music really. Although i dont really care for the style, some of those guys actually have some artistic merit, even if it is minimal, because it survives on the music itself, and not the image or how many records they're selling.
I think the problem with rap is that, by its very nature, it is so self-limiting. When you have metal bands comprising of guys that do 100-note guitar solos, the ability to make up rhyms to the beat of a drum machine is pretty laughable. The only way it can gain any sort of substance is when it ventures into cross-overs, but then we get gutter trash like Limp Bizkit.

The problem i think is that rap has become misrepresented and distorted since it began in the late 70's before going radio around the early to mid 80's. Rap was never meant to be placed along side genres like jazz or heavy metal, where a great deal of focus is placed on complexity, composition and technical ability. Music is art, and rap was never about art, and it still isnt, and thats why i dont have a lot of respect for it . But it was a cultural thing, that was its significance. It was an outlet for black youth living in ghettos, where they couldnt get instruments and instead resorted to having someone beat-box while another rapped about frustrations and life in the inner city. It was like blues, really. Now we have rap artists glorifying gang wars and drug dealing, things that rap originally was created as an escape from; we have rappers fucking pretending to be gangsters and drug dealers, who actually want to be, and then they fucking convince their listeners that this is a good way to behave. Its a step backwards for black culture and it keeps racism more active than it has been in about 30 years.

I can relate to some of the more aggressive, faster stuff, because it shares many similarity's in its tone with metal, which is what im into, but otherwise the world could do without rap. I just dont see a point to it really. I'm an artist myself, and music is an art and i just dont see anything worthwhile in rap.

"In the 1950s, they invented rock and roll, for kids who couldn't sing very well. In the 1980s, they invented rap, for kids who can't sing at all."- Martin Mull.

Rap is not music. At best, it's urban poetry set to a beat. At worst, it's just vile misogynistic wannaba-anarchist hate speech masquerading as an art form.

Rap is simply noise pollution. Fines should be issued for playing it out side.

Eminem = pwn.

Some of Will Smith's stuff struck me as ok as well, but other than that, I have no real love for mainstream rap. But Eminem = pwn.

No talent involved at all. As long as you can swear, rhyme a bunch of made-up words, and dress like a colorblind epileptic, you get to be rapper. Being black, having no education, and being a complete idiot also lend credibility to your act. I mean, 50 Cent is glorified for having been shot multiple times. Frankly, an individual who willingly puts themselves into a situation where they get shot, and then goes and does it again, and then brags about it, is unworthy of even contempt.

At it's worst, rap is not only misyognistic racist shit, it's also a cultural virus, promoting the retarded inner-city culture that is slowly infesting the suburbs.

Oh, and the kid who sings 'I got the Magic Stick' needs to be euthanized.

I would rather listen to rap than be completely deaf. That's the closest to praise you'll get from me.

My WinAmp playlist has just reminded me:

Strong Bad > All.

I say
come on fhqwhgads,
come on fhqwhgads,
everybody to the limit,
everybody to the limit,
everybody come on fhqwhgads!

I say
come on fhqwhgads,
come on fhqwhgads,
everybody to the limit,
who's that? to the limit
everybody come on fhqwhgads!

And so on.

Small parts of it, I find tolerable, some very small parts of it I find satisfactory.
But the larger portion of it is crap.

[standard rap apology]Rap is a musical art form, it just hasn't been around long enough to be respected as such! You're all just a bunch of old fogies, 40 years ago, they were saying the same things about rock![/standard rap apology]

Superman wrote:I'm wondering how everyone feels about rap music. I don't like it, but I'm probably in the minority. What do you think about it?

When I was in high school (84-88), rap made an introduction onto the scene. I thought it was useless and would have a short life. Sadly, I was wrong...

HemlockGrey wrote:the kid who sings 'I got the Magic Stick'

WTF

HemlockGrey wrote:needs to be euthanized.

SECONDED!!!

JediNeophyte wrote:My WinAmp playlist has just reminded me:

Strong Bad > All.

I say
come on fhqwhgads,
come on fhqwhgads,
everybody to the limit,
everybody to the limit,
everybody come on fhqwhgads!

I say
come on fhqwhgads,
come on fhqwhgads,
everybody to the limit,
who's that? to the limit
everybody come on fhqwhgads!

And so on.

Strongbad is phunny. A crap singer, but phunny.

/me starts his |\|I|/| MP3s to drive that song outta his head with prejudice...

Some is OK and some is really decent depending on my mood, but unfortunately, vast majority of it is utter crap.

But something that should be cleared up is the idea that all rap artists have no talent. This is actually false. Quite a few are quite talented, especially ones who do free-style and stuff. Anyone can learn to do the standard garbage, but it takes a fair amount of skill to rap well, especially on the fly like like free-style rappers do. And not all are all thugged out. Most are based on image, but some craft their own image other than being a bone thug. For instance, I've met Busta Rhymes once at an event when he was touring in Pittsburgh. He's actually a really cool guy, really odd, but cool. I get the same impression of what I see of Snoop Dogg, who's sort of become a charicature of himself in recent years.

I don't mind SOME rap.

Namely: Run DMC, Public Enemy w/ Anthrax, Biohazard, De La Soul, Will Smith and some of the nu metal that i listen to. I quite like some of the samples they use in songs, and i have an affinity for in moderation vinyl scratching.

Eminem isn't that bad either. But i don't have any of his songs on my computer.

EDITDon't get rap and hip-hop mixed up. Also Zach De La Rocha raps in RATM.

What is the difference between rap and hip-hop? I honestly don't know.

jegs2 wrote:

Superman wrote:I'm wondering how everyone feels about rap music. I don't like it, but I'm probably in the minority. What do you think about it?

When I was in high school (84-88), rap made an introduction onto the scene. I thought it was useless and would have a short life. Sadly, I was wrong...

I was in high school from 85-89. I dont remember having much of an opinion on rap, other than I though beat boxers and their jerry curl juice were annoying.

Should clarify that I was a white kid in a mostly black school in South Florida, so rap was prevalent at that time, with such perrinial favorites as, "Throw that Dick," and "Hey, we want Some Pussy" (Don't know if those were the actual titles to the "songs" or not, nor do I care to be enlightened). It was also a time when the HS kids brought Cadillac-sized ghetto blasters into school with them...