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Montcalm wrote:Private Lynch get $1.000.000 for story

Do you know how far $1mil will go in WV?! She's set for life!!!

Seriously, though.... who cares?

Private Noonegivesashitanymore has a book deal? When did people start caring?

kojikun wrote:Private Noonegivesashitanymore has a book deal? When did people start caring?

Sometime around where people who showed two cents more worth of tactical sense than her died but didn't get the recognizition they deserved since she had to get captured, stupid girl.

CmdrWilkens wrote:
Sometime around where people who showed two cents more worth of tactical sense than her died but didn't get the recognizition they deserved since she had to get captured, stupid girl.

It wasn't her fault she got turned into a hero by the Media, but it was her fault she accepted this deal and it's made worse by the fact she chose Jayson Blair's partner in lying as her partner in writing her story. I respected her completely as someone who had basically been the victim of bad circumstance both in Iraq and in the U.S. media's Stupid-Frenzy--until now. The moment I read this story my respect-meter for her managed to go from 100% to 0%.

who can blame her? Would you turn down $1 000 000 for a book? You'd have to be a complete fucking moron to do that. She's just an ordinary person; show me someone in her position who'd turn down that deal and i'll show you the stupidest person on earth. At least she suffered a bit for her reward (and her story would be interesting from her POV, even if it'll be inevitably skewered by the writing).

Imagine when the book is turned into "The Hallmark Crappy Movie of the Month"

It wasn't her fault she got turned into a hero by the Media, but it was her fault she accepted this deal and it's made worse by the fact she chose Jayson Blair's partner in lying as her partner in writing her story. I respected her completely as someone who had basically been the victim of bad circumstance both in Iraq and in the U.S. media's Stupid-Frenzy--until now. The moment I read this story my respect-meter for her managed to go from 100% to 0%.

Like zombie said, I don't blame her for accepting $1,000,000. I'd do it.[/list]

zombie84 wrote:who can blame her? Would you turn down $1 000 000 for a book? You'd have to be a complete fucking moron to do that. She's just an ordinary person; show me someone in her position who'd turn down that deal and i'll show you the stupidest person on earth. At least she suffered a bit for her reward (and her story would be interesting from her POV, even if it'll be inevitably skewered by the writing).

I cant blame her either. I think the whole turning her into a hero is bullshit, but I wont blame her for making a million bucks. After taxes she should have around 500-550K. That wont set you up for the rest of your life, but owning a nice home outright is a sure way to start.

Yay, a book deal for being incompetent.

Vympel wrote:Yay, a book deal for being incompetent.

What about the Bible?

I give it less then three years for a TV movie, heck probably less then one at this point.

Sea Skimmer wrote:I give it less then three years for a TV movie, heck probably less then one at this point.

The TV movie deal has already been done, hasn't it? Oh wait, that's another dumbfuck, Elizabeth not-so Smart.

Vympel wrote:
The TV movie deal has already been done, hasn't it? Oh wait, that's another dumbfuck, Elizabeth not-so Smart.

When a group of coal miners got rescued from a Pennsylvania mine earlier this year, they signed a movie contract for a couple million within a couple days and it was aired only a few months later. I forget which network it was though.

CmdrWilkens wrote: Sometime around where people who showed two cents more worth of tactical sense than her died but didn't get the recognizition they deserved since she had to get captured, stupid girl.

If I recall, she got taken out early, and wasn't able to contribute to the fight.

CmdrWilkens wrote:

kojikun wrote:Private Noonegivesashitanymore has a book deal? When did people start caring?

Sometime around where people who showed two cents more worth of tactical sense than her died but didn't get the recognizition they deserved since she had to get captured, stupid girl.

Was she in command? It seemed like it was hardly her fault...she is only a PFC so I doubt she was in charge.

Vympel wrote:

Sea Skimmer wrote:I give it less then three years for a TV movie, heck probably less then one at this point.

The TV movie deal has already been done, hasn't it? Oh wait, that's another dumbfuck, Elizabeth not-so Smart.

Strange....you seem to be blaming her for something that is clearly her fathers fault.

Gandalf wrote:

Vympel wrote:Yay, a book deal for being incompetent.

What about the Bible?

LOL!!

MKSheppard wrote: If I recall, she got taken out early, and wasn't able to contribute to the fight.

Her HMMWV crashed. Tragic ...

Oh leave her alone.
She was invloved in a vehicular accident.
She was turned into a media circus propaganda machine
She came home to media attention she couldn't possibly have expected.

If people are stupid enough to give her $1m, let them. It doesn't affect us, as we're not going to read the book.

innerbrat wrote:Oh leave her alone.
She was invloved in a vehicular accident.
She was turned into a media circus propaganda machine
She came home to media attention she couldn't possibly have expected.

If people are stupid enough to give her $1m, let them. It doesn't affect us, as we're not going to read the book.

It affects her comrades and her service, both of whom she is dishonouring, and the relatives of those of her comrades whom died in that action and did not receive any recognition at all for it. What she should have done is maintain her silence and spurn with contempt the offers directed to her. That would have been the appropriate thing considering the circus around her, to maintain the dignity of the circumstances in which she had been found, the dignity of those who died, and the honour of the military for which she fought.

This entire acceptance is nothing more than a commercialization of the principle values of the military service, a rendering down to nothing of all things held dear between soldiers, a further degregation of the once high and noble principles of the soldier into a worthless collection of mercenaries.. Truly, one can suspect that many of her former comrades will not look upon her after today. She'd be more fit as a Praetorian Guardsman than as an oath-sworn soldier of the American Republic, for she would no doubt sell anything to the highest bidder, probably her country as much as the honour of her comrades.

She should be pilloried and run out of the nation for this. Her act is like, in whole, the entire rejection of the basic ideas of respect, and human dignity. She has revealed herself to be a venal creature caring only for money who has sold out the memories of her comrades for a trifling pittance by modern standards. It is far better to be poor, and to have one's pride and dignity, than to be rich, and without any sort of virtue whatsoever. She has proven herself to be of the later--without virtue, and desiring only to be rich. Her soul, is purely that of a mercenary, and it bodes ill that she was serving in the American military, for our Republic cannot long stand if we rely on mercenary soldiers to defend it and to enforce its interests.

Those of you who openly confess a desire for the money in these circumstances should be entirely ashamed! Think! You are admitting that you would put a crass and craven desire for wealth over any sort of moral rectitude which might exist in the fibre of your beings. You are essentially admitting that you would gladly follow her example, in abandoning the memory and the spirit of your comrades, to being reduced to a mere shadow, against your own commercialized self-image, projected by the hounds of the media to unimaginable height, 'till they tired of you and threw you down. You are admitting, in that, that momentary fame is far more important to you than the sacrifices of those who fought alongside you, and their relatives who yet remain. You are essentially saying that should you suffer these things, and have friends who left their bodies in a foreign country for your nation, that you would sell them all out for some wealth that could be squandered in a year's hard living!

I would sincerely hope that those who, normally sensible, have posted such horrid statements, would think upon them, and realizing the pure greed and wanton lust for money unrestrained by any sensibility that is reflected within them, retract them. They are truly the statements of those who, unthinkingly, teeter on the edge of abandoning principle, and virtue, for the crass desires of worldly excess. So many people wallow in this already that our Republic carooms about like a mad drunk, but as the sane and the intelligent might yet reverse her course, so we lose hope as they, too, succomb to the temptation of false and flattering theory, and the vain aspiration of wealth and fame.

Marina, you're overreacting. A lot.

Edi

Edi wrote:

Marina, you're overreacting. A lot.

Edi

The luxurious words of someone who's country still has a draft army. We have a professional army, and any sort of mercenary tendencies from it are highly, highly disturbing. The critical thing which keeps a professional army from being a collection of mercenaries is when they love their nation and their comrades (in the platonic sense the later, of course!) more than any other thing: their nation the first, their comrades the second. When money is elevated above these critical ideological loves of the professional soldier?

Nothing more than a mercenary, and a mercenary is the death of a free and democratic country. That might piss off some of the Wolves, but I know my history and I know what mercenary armies have done to free countries before. The love of money cannot supercede the love of country and comrades in the heart of the professional soldier, it is as simple as that. And for Jessica Lynch, at least? Well, she demonstrated that she is very much the mercenary, indeed.

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:And for Jessica Lynch, at least? Well, she demonstrated that she is very much the mercenary, indeed.

Because she's telling her side of the story?

What exactly, is she doing that's harmful?

innerbrat wrote: Because she's telling her side of the story?

What exactly, is she doing that's harmful?

Destroying the moral and ethical fabric of the military by participating in this game. As long as it was other people building it up around her, that could be dismissed--it was not the doing of anyone in the military. But once she participated, once she chose the money over maintaining the integrity of her service, she put her own venal desire for economic advancement over the integrity and cohesion of the service which both trained and provided for her, and rescued her; and that of the comrades with which she had fought, and the comrades who had died fighting with her.

She, indeed, betrayed them, by choosing money over respect for them. They were not honoured, were they? While she was randomly chosen by the media? But instead of refusing the specious temptations of the media, she gave in to them, and proved herself venal and interested only in sating her own greed. The dead are left disrespected, and the families of the dead, can see their loved ones forgotten, as this living individual, is magnified into a hero beyond all believable reason.

It is sickening, and it is indeed a purely mercenary act.