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Vendetta TNG novel

Posted: 2002-09-24 11:26pm
by Shrykull
Anyone ever read this novel? In it the TOS planet killer destroys three borg cubes, even though it fires a stream of anti-protons, instead of energy, at one point the borg shields stop the beam, but then it penetrates after the beam is intensified. I'm wondering does anti-matter also exist in solid liquid gas and plasma forms? I'm guessing maybe it was anti-matter plasma that was fired at the borg cubes. I thought anti-matter would not react with an energy shield however.

Posted: 2002-09-25 01:23am
by David
I read that years ago, and it once again proves that ST books are way better than ST episodes. Of course, Geordi did fall in love with a walking corpse.....

Posted: 2002-09-25 02:12am
by His Divine Shadow
David wrote:I read that years ago, and it once again proves that ST books are way better than ST episodes. Of course, Geordi did fall in love with a walking corpse.....
I've heard most of those books turn into trekkie wankfests.
Care to prove/disprove that?

Posted: 2002-09-25 07:37am
by Colonel Olrik
His Divine Shadow wrote: I've heard most of those books turn into trekkie wankfests.
Care to prove/disprove that?
Well, I buy one once in a while, after careful consideration and study. Many of them are comparable to the bad SW books (which I also buy after prolonged studies). But some are really good pieces of scifi. There is just a huge amount of books out there. Fortunely, there are also some folks who go to the trouble of reviewing them properly.
I could point out some of the books I quite enjoyed.

Posted: 2002-09-25 10:32am
by Tsyroc
Vendetta was a decent TNG book. The Borg weren't yet invincible or total crap.

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I suppose it could be used as a Trekkie Wankfest if any of them ever decided to use the full powered planet destroyer that's in the book (the one in the TOS was prototype) in a anti-Wars tirade.

Posted: 2002-09-25 03:13pm
by Vertigo1
Yeah, that was a mean ship. Not something I'd want to be on the bad side of. Of course it had the borg adapting to the anti-proton beams. ;) (which isn't possible)

Wasn't that the book that had hand weapons that were powerful enough to blast a huge hole in the hull?

(Though if you really want a good TNG novel to read, get Q-in-Law. Its funny as hell when Troi's mother goes berzerk on Q. :D)

that book

Posted: 2002-09-25 08:48pm
by Shrykull
nice guys, but can anyone answer my questions about anti-matter and the others?

Posted: 2002-09-25 08:54pm
by Wicked Pilot
I'm no nuclear physicist, but I can't see why you can't combine an antiproton and a positron and get antihydrogen. Perhaps someone more qualified could answer your question.

on antimatter

Posted: 2002-09-25 11:14pm
by Shaka[Zulu]
well, it is theoretically possible to make antimatter versions of anything on the periodic table. iirc, theory is that such 'heavy' antimatter elements would be far more stable & storable than simple antiprotons, as they would not react with anything but their opposite (ie anti-helium would only react with helium, so one could store it just like any other cryogenic liquid, in normal containers). Since nobody has managed to make antiprotons in quantites large enough to be of interest to anybody but pure research scientists, much less a true anti-element, I would say that actual practicality is anybody's guess.

as for the Vendetta PK, I have to say that it is interesting, considering that I tend to agree with the books conclusion that the original PK was likely a prototype, and originated not in some other galaxy, but somewhere just beyond our own (beyond the rim). The evidence cited is quite intriguing, and would have made a truly great nexgen movie, or even a multi-ep storyline during the series run on TV -- far better stuff than anything else Ive seen in trek for many years.

Posted: 2002-09-26 01:38am
by consequences
The book was awesome, if only for the fact that more than one Borg cube was used, and they weren't just their for target practice, as always seemed to happen in Voyager. Peter David might be the best Star Trek novel writer out there.

Posted: 2002-09-26 10:32am
by Tsyroc
On the antihydrogen question.

Aren't the photon topedoes composed of dueterium and antidueterium? Dueterium is an isotope of hydrogen?