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I thought the "Batmobile" Armor was the cheesiest Idea I've ever seen. It's seems like some sort of cop-out B&B created b/c they ran out of stupid technobabble 25th century tech concepts. I thought it was sooo bad anyone agree?

I thought it was another one of B&B's silly little gimmicks, they're like a pair of children cramming in anything they think is cool just because they've seen it somewhere and said "ME TOO!".

this should be in 'Off Topic'

That whole episode and its ridiculous Deus Ex Machina was nearly as contrived as the part in Enterprise's season premier when Hoshi rips off her shirt.

If you think about it, all they did was rip off Viper.

And if you think about it further, that means Federation ships don't have armour.

Moved to off-topic and yes it was a damn cop-out idiot idea

The very concept of Endgame sickens me -- Voyager finally gets back with years of hard work and preserverence, then Janeway decides that's not good enough and invokes the spectre of time travel to make it all better. The Batmobile armour was only a small part of the crap that made up that episode, which was bad even by Voyager standards. It was representative of the entire series, sadly.

Sickened me yes, it did, awful it was. I can't believe that Corina made Mike and Me tape the monstrosity, so she could see it when she got off work.

not as bad as Sacrifice of Angels, where the WH aliens suddenly showed up and saved the day

Endgame in general seemed Like a cop out to me. (after I let it sink in) I was gradually more and more dissappointed as time progressed. But I created a fan-fic concept about Voyager getting Home, another way. Anyone interested??

IG-88E wrote:not as bad as Sacrifice of Angels, where the WH aliens suddenly showed up and saved the day

Whenever they have a really big episode hyped up they just cop out and don't do anything with it.

The armor wasn't as bad as a cop-out as the torpedoes....


and I don't even wanna discuss time travel

Stupid-Time-Travel-Tricks seem to be a staple Trek cop-out.

Yep, it seems to be standered pratice in the 31st century

Yeah, but it's funny how they use time travel to screw over people. Like Lt. Carey. Damn. Janeway couldn't go back a month more to save his ass? That's pretty harsh. And imagine what she'll have to say to his family.

I said something to the effect of "Whoa, what a stupid but cool-looking idea"

neoolong wrote:Yeah, but it's funny how they use time travel to screw over people. Like Lt. Carey. Damn. Janeway couldn't go back a month more to save his ass? That's pretty harsh. And imagine what she'll have to say to his family.

"Mr. and Ms. Carey. This is Captain Kathyrn Janeway on the USS Voyager. Your son, Lt. Carey, died because I'm a self-righteous jackass."

Mr Bean wrote:Yep, it seems to be standered pratice in the 31st century

Indeed.

Endgame sucked hard Rhino cock BTW.

As soon as i saw that armor, i screamed: Why is Voyager the fucking batmobile now??????? Why must they make the Borg seem like pussies with new oobie-doobie technobabble torpedoes? I suggest you go here http://www.sfdebris.com/main.html It has the hilarious "Opinionated Voyager Episode Guide" I coulnt stop laughing.

Master of Ossus wrote:That whole episode and its ridiculous Deus Ex Machina was nearly as contrived as the part in Enterprise's season premier when Hoshi rips off her shirt.

Question: You are opposed to the female cast members of Enterprise being topless? (Or in the case of the Vulcan, in silky half-tops as often as possible?)