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You can't belive your eyes

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:46pm
by Faram
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A light check in the shadow is the same gray as a dark check outside the shadow.

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:52pm
by Kuja
Uh, it's called a shadow.

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:53pm
by Kuja
waitaminute.....*looks closer.....WTF?!?!

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:55pm
by 2000AD
They aren't the same shade though.

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:55pm
by salm
nice one!

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:57pm
by 2000AD
just WTF is meant to be happening?

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:57pm
by Kuja
Is this some kind of mind-bending psychiatric shit??!

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:58pm
by Mr Bean
The Letters are the same shade of Grey
Just because somthing is dark does not make it the same color

IE in a Dark room, a Yellow truck is still yellow, even without light

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:58pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
I don't get it...

Posted: 2002-09-29 04:59pm
by Faram
From the webpage:
The visual system needs to determine the color of objects in the world. In this case the problem is to determine the gray shade of the checks on the floor. Just measuring the light coming from a surface (the luminance) is not enough: a cast shadow will dim a surface, so that a white surface in shadow may be reflecting less light than a black surface in full light. The visual system uses several tricks to determine where the shadows are and how to compensate for them, in order to determine the shade of gray "paint" that belongs to the surface.

The first trick is based on local contrast. In shadow or not, a check that is lighter than its neighboring checks is probably lighter than average, and vice versa. In the figure, the light check in shadow is surrounded by darker checks. Thus, even though the check is physically dark, it is light when compared to its neighbors. The dark checks outside the shadow, conversely, are surrounded by lighter checks, so they look dark by comparison.

A second trick is based on the fact that shadows often have soft edges, while paint boundaries (like the checks) often have sharp edges. The visual system tends to ignore gradual changes in light level, so that it can determine the color of the surfaces without being misled by shadows. In this figure, the shadow looks like a shadow, both because it is fuzzy and because the shadow casting object is visible.

The "paintness" of the checks is aided by the form of the "X-junctions" formed by 4 abutting checks. This type of junction is usually a signal that all the edges should be interpreted as changes in surface color rather than in terms of shadows or lighting.

As with many so-called illusions, this effect really demonstrates the success rather than the failure of the visual system. The visual system is not very good at being a physical light meter, but that is not its purpose. The important task is to break the image information down into meaningful components, and thereby perceive the nature of the objects in view.

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:00pm
by 2000AD
But the thing says that the SQUARES marked A and B are the same colour, not the letters

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:01pm
by salm
Mr Bean wrote:The Letters are the same shade of Grey
Just because somthing is dark does not make it the same color

IE in a Dark room, a Yellow truck is still yellow, even without light
no the squares are supposed to be the same shade.
there´s no dark room in this picture it´s just a bunch of pixles and the square A and Square B are the same shades

*shoots up photoshop to check*

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:03pm
by salm
yup, both squares are R: 107 G: 107 B: 107

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:04pm
by aerius
I just photoshoped it, the squares are indeed the same colour.

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:06pm
by salm
aerius wrote:I just photoshoped it, the squares are indeed the same colour.

HAAAHAAA
FIRST!

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:13pm
by Faram
Some more

Classic the lines are straight :
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The color of the dots?
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Posted: 2002-09-29 05:14pm
by Faram
Nice post inflating tread ain't it? :)

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:15pm
by Kuja
The lines are horizontal. Your eyes just see them wrong because of the blocks.

The dots are all white. The black is an OI.

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:19pm
by salm
they dots colors range from R: 248 G: 248 B: 248 to R: 255 G: 255 B: 255

so, no they´re not all white. some of them are white some of them are very light shades of gray

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:20pm
by Sea Skimmer
Cool

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:24pm
by Faram
Image

Just could not resit making this my #100 post

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:43pm
by ArmorPierce
huh? what exactly am I suppose to be looking at?

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:45pm
by Kuja
Nothing like that could exist in- (aide whispers in ear) the PRESIDENT??!?!

Oops :oops:

Posted: 2002-09-29 05:49pm
by ArmorPierce
the letters its because of the shadow isn't it as for the seecond ones, that one is a good one the letters its because of the shadow isn't it as for the seecond ones they are all white and what are the lines slanted and strait?

Wait... on closer inspection I'm able to tell that all the lines are strait and not slanted.

Posted: 2002-09-29 08:50pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
I'm a fan of the ones by Escher, but they're a different kind of optical illusion. They don't rely on different shades of grey to fool the eye.