Slaughterhouse Five vs. Catch-22
Moderator: Edi
- MKSheppard
- Ruthless Genocidal Warmonger
- Posts: 29842
- Joined: 2002-07-06 06:34pm
Slaughterhouse Five vs. Catch-22
Which is better?
IMHO, Slaughterhouse 5 was a unimaginable mess that Vonnegut
must have written while tripping on LSD.
Catch-22 OTOH, is much much better. Major Major and Yossarian kick
ass!
IMHO, Slaughterhouse 5 was a unimaginable mess that Vonnegut
must have written while tripping on LSD.
Catch-22 OTOH, is much much better. Major Major and Yossarian kick
ass!
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
- Faram
- Bastard Operator from Hell
- Posts: 5271
- Joined: 2002-07-04 07:39am
- Location: Fighting Polarbears
Any movie that hands out decorations for nice bombing patterns gets my vote
Never mind that they did't hit anything! (or was that in the book can't remember)
Never mind that they did't hit anything! (or was that in the book can't remember)
[img=right]http://hem.bredband.net/b217293/warsaban.gif[/img]
"Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. ... If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. ... If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?" -Epicurus
Fear is the mother of all gods.
Nature does all things spontaneously, by herself, without the meddling of the gods. -Lucretius
"Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. ... If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. ... If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?" -Epicurus
Fear is the mother of all gods.
Nature does all things spontaneously, by herself, without the meddling of the gods. -Lucretius
- Sea Skimmer
- Yankee Capitalist Air Pirate
- Posts: 37390
- Joined: 2002-07-03 11:49pm
- Location: Passchendaele City, HAB
- Master of Ossus
- Darkest Knight
- Posts: 18213
- Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
- Location: California
Catch-22 was a vastly superior better book. Slaughterhouse 5 was vastly superior as a literary piece. Draw your own conclusion.
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
- VF5SS
- Sith Devotee
- Posts: 3281
- Joined: 2002-07-04 07:14pm
- Location: Neither here nor there...
- Contact:
Re: Slaughterhouse Five vs. Catch-22
Ah yes, Major Major Major Major (there were four right) was a great guy.MKSheppard wrote: Catch-22 OTOH, is much much better. Major Major and Yossarian kick
ass!
プロジェクトゾハルとは何ですか?
ロボットが好き。
ロボットが好き。
- The Yosemite Bear
- Mostly Harmless Nutcase (Requiescat in Pace)
- Posts: 35211
- Joined: 2002-07-21 02:38am
- Location: Dave's Not Here Man
You are talking two of the three most guilt ridden Surrealist Sci Fi works to come out of the firebombing of Dresden. Personally I say that of the two Catch 22 is more coharent. Of the three Dresden guiltfests I would have to say Canticle for Liebowitz. It was cohairent, had an epic quality, and was ultimatly about redemption, not some exeistentialist (Alone against the uncaring universe jargon.)
The scariest folk song lyrics are "My Boy Grew up to be just like me" from cats in the cradle by Harry Chapin
- Master of Ossus
- Darkest Knight
- Posts: 18213
- Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
- Location: California
Of course Catch-22 is more coherent. It is also much more accesible. That is a large part of what makes it a better book. It is also, indirectly, related to why S5 is a better literary piece.
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
- The Yosemite Bear
- Mostly Harmless Nutcase (Requiescat in Pace)
- Posts: 35211
- Joined: 2002-07-21 02:38am
- Location: Dave's Not Here Man
- Master of Ossus
- Darkest Knight
- Posts: 18213
- Joined: 2002-07-11 01:35am
- Location: California
Indeed, it is part of that disjointedness that makes it such a wonderful work. There actually is meaning within the book, but many people are so confused by it that they never figure it out. Catch-22, while disjointed in and of itself, is much more accessible. In 100 years, we may not still be reading S5 until university (if then), but I would bet that we'll still be reading C-22.
"Sometimes I think you WANT us to fail." "Shut up, just shut up!" -Two Guys from Kabul
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."
Latinum Star Recipient; Hacker's Cross Award Winner
"one soler flar can vapririze the planit or malt the nickl in lass than millasacit" -Bagara1000
"Happiness is just a Flaming Moe away."