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The SB Administrator's line on dealing with racist morons

Posted: 2002-10-01 02:32pm
by Faust von ASVS
Make your own judgement, but it sounds to Me as though he is defending them:

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/annou ... &forumid=4

Re: The SB Administrator's line on dealing with racist moron

Posted: 2002-10-01 02:37pm
by Stormbringer
Faust von ASVS wrote:Make your own judgement, but it sounds to Me as though he is defending them:

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/annou ... &forumid=4
Tron's not. Some members of SB.com were advocating hacking them or other illegal activities. He clamped down on that as it puts Sb.com in a position where they could be sued. Under the law, they had to do that whether they like it or not.

Plus, it's always been the position of SB.com that they will not allow "invasions" to be planned in their forums. Members were also planning such an invasion.

Posted: 2002-10-01 02:41pm
by Kelly Antilles
Sounds to me like he's just trying to protect his site. *shrug*

Posted: 2002-10-01 02:43pm
by Stormbringer
Kelly Antilles wrote:Sounds to me like he's just trying to protect his site. *shrug*
Exactly. Some people on this board and on ASVS are a little to willing to condemn Spacebattles for nothing.

Posted: 2002-10-01 02:49pm
by David
I did the same thing here. I'm not really worried about these WCOTC fanatics, but allowing people to plan hacking attacks on this board could create problems.

Posted: 2002-10-01 04:46pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Tron seems to think by "attack", we mean something that's illegal, or at least that's how I see it. He could be just trying ot protect his board, fearing that the s at WCotC would hack it.

On another note: Did you see his post count? He does 60 posts a day, and has about 15 times as many posts as Bean!

Posted: 2002-10-01 05:54pm
by salm
On another note: Did you see his post count? He does 60 posts a day, and has about 15 times as many posts as Bean!
wow... from where does he take the time??? doesnt he have to work or something like that?

Re: The SB Administrator's line on dealing with racist moron

Posted: 2002-10-01 06:00pm
by Rhadamanthus
Tron wrote:No member of this board will post or advocate an attack on any site or board that they happen to disagree with. Any posts of this sort will be edited, and on second offense the member will be given a one week ban.

There will no longer be any talk of illegal activiteis of this sort tolerated.
Yeah, I mean, that obviously translates too "NAZI'S RULE!! DOWN WITH THE MUD PEOPLE!!"

:roll:

Slow day Faust? :?

Posted: 2002-10-01 06:01pm
by Master of Ossus
I think he's just trying to prevent people from attacking other boards through their site. I don't think he's advocating racism. I just think he's kind of using a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, whereby other people are not supposed to use their site to attack others.

Posted: 2002-10-01 10:12pm
by Steve
Actually, Tron inflated his post count during a particular thread with the likes of RocketGirl bragging about their post counts. :D

Posted: 2002-10-01 10:13pm
by phongn
salm wrote:
On another note: Did you see his post count? He does 60 posts a day, and has about 15 times as many posts as Bean!
wow... from where does he take the time??? doesnt he have to work or something like that?
He's a school bus driver.

Posted: 2002-10-01 10:14pm
by phongn
Actually, I suspect that Tron's post count is permanantly at the maximum - 2^16 -1, which gives 65535 :D

Posted: 2002-10-01 11:06pm
by The Yosemite Bear
Worry anytime scientific Notation gets involved with Post counts....

Posted: 2002-10-02 12:56am
by David
You should have seen my post count per day a few months ago.

Posted: 2002-10-03 01:49am
by Vertigo1
Dude, its always been the policy of never allowing discussions of invasions, or even condoning it. Thats just covering their ass. Its been that way since the very beginning.

Re: The SB Administrator's line on dealing with racist moron

Posted: 2002-10-03 10:17pm
by HBMC
Faust von ASVS wrote:Make your own judgement, but it sounds to Me as though he is defending them:

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/annou ... &forumid=4
You're an idiot.

All Tron is saying is that discussion of, and the acting out, of hacking attacks on any website (no matter what) shall not be discussed on the board or the person/s involved will face the consequences.

But no, let's just use it as another excuse to bash Spacebattles... you fucking moron...

...

Posted: 2002-10-06 04:26pm
by Hyperion
i do understand where they're coming from, though i DO think they went a little extreme in handling a few members of the SB.com forums... they should have banned the WCOTC trolls right off the bat when they started riling up the members. i for one got caught in that, i got nicely riled up and posted that i wanted some IPs and e-mail addys from the WCOTC idiot brigade so i could post them on some hacker newsgroups such as alt.2600, i never did specify that I would do it, just that i'd help something happen, though i never did it.

Posted: 2002-10-06 06:29pm
by Tod zu den SD.net Idioten
Hyperion wrote:i do understand where they're coming from, though i DO think they went a little extreme in handling a few members of the SB.com forums... they should have banned the WCOTC trolls right off the bat when they started riling up the members. i for one got caught in that, i got nicely riled up and posted that i wanted some IPs and e-mail addys from the WCOTC idiot brigade so i could post them on some hacker newsgroups such as alt.2600, i never did specify that I would do it, just that i'd help something happen, though i never did it.
Why bother collecting IP addresses? If the hackers on said hacking groups are any good, it should be sufficient to just throw them a link to WCOTC and let them have at it.

Re: The SB Administrator's line on dealing with racist moron

Posted: 2002-10-06 06:32pm
by weemadando
HBMC wrote:
But no, let's just use it as another excuse to bash Spacebattles... you fucking moron...
Why? SB bashing is fun!

Posted: 2002-10-06 07:06pm
by Master of Ossus
Hyperion wrote:i do understand where they're coming from, though i DO think they went a little extreme in handling a few members of the SB.com forums... they should have banned the WCOTC trolls right off the bat when they started riling up the members. i for one got caught in that, i got nicely riled up and posted that i wanted some IPs and e-mail addys from the WCOTC idiot brigade so i could post them on some hacker newsgroups such as alt.2600, i never did specify that I would do it, just that i'd help something happen, though i never did it.
Is that why they banned you? Yeesh.

And, for the record, SB bashing is fun.

Re: The SB Administrator's line on dealing with racist moron

Posted: 2002-10-06 07:49pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Faust von ASVS wrote:Make your own judgement, but it sounds to Me as though he is defending them:

http://kier.3dfrontier.com/forums/annou ... &forumid=4

He is not you assfuck. He doesn't want to get in trouble because of what members do.

Posted: 2002-10-06 07:50pm
by Grand Admiral Thrawn
Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:Tron seems to think by "attack", we mean something that's illegal, or at least that's how I see it. He could be just trying ot protect his board, fearing that the s at WCotC would hack it.

On another note: Did you see his post count? He does 60 posts a day, and has about 15 times as many posts as Bean!

Lies. He made that post count.

Posted: 2002-10-06 08:06pm
by ArmorPierce
Protecting the site from getting into legal problems doesn't sound like defending wcotc to me.

Posted: 2002-10-06 08:36pm
by Hyperion
actually the site could NOT get in trouble... i'm still sorely tempted to go and drop an anonomous tip on terrorist activities to the FBI in regards to glock and his merry band of neo-nazi fools, same goes for dropping a hint to the ACLU and some other nice little organizations which i don't really like, but could cause glock and his minions quite a bit of hell.

as for SB.com getting in trouble, there was no way WCOTC could touch the site admins/ISP unless a hacker attack or board invasion happened, and even then in court, who wins? nazis or geeks? that's a no brainer, and it ain't the nazis.

Posted: 2002-10-06 10:40pm
by Vertigo1
Master of Ossus wrote:
Hyperion wrote:i do understand where they're coming from, though i DO think they went a little extreme in handling a few members of the SB.com forums... they should have banned the WCOTC trolls right off the bat when they started riling up the members. i for one got caught in that, i got nicely riled up and posted that i wanted some IPs and e-mail addys from the WCOTC idiot brigade so i could post them on some hacker newsgroups such as alt.2600, i never did specify that I would do it, just that i'd help something happen, though i never did it.
Is that why they banned you? Yeesh.

And, for the record, SB bashing is fun.
I seriously doubt THAT is why he got banned. I've made similar posts in the past, and I never got touched. If anything, it was for the...detailed posts me made. :) (not that I blame him. I would've done the same had I been there when the moron posted.)