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Today I Saw An Ad In The Subway For This Car On the first look i thought it looked like a VW newbug

Ugly SOBs. Gimme my Wrangler any day of the week.

SSR is a huge disappointment. For 40 grand, you get something which tries to be a street-rodding truck, but lacks the raw power. It tries to have a "custom" looking interior, but it just looks plasticky. I will say that the folding top is pretty freakin' cool, though.

GM threw away thirty-five years of history when they nixed the Camaro. The money they spent on developing the SSR could've done a lot to make the Camaro an awesome muscle car once again.

*puke*

I like the classy look, to be honest, but I hate the function of it. It would look better if it were a full car or a full pickup.

it's pretty cool looking... but i'd rather have this!

I always thought American cars were shit, now it's like someone is running a secret campaign to prove me right once every month.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I always thought American cars were shit, now it's like someone is running a secret campaign to prove me right once every month.

Bah! you're just jealous, now that Jaguars are Fords and Rolls Royce's are volkswagens. All thats left in jolly old England is Cooper, and do i even need to use the penile envy joke that lies within that?

[austin powers] You're spy car is a mini?!? [/austin powers]

Col. Crackpot wrote:

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I always thought American cars were shit, now it's like someone is running a secret campaign to prove me right once every month.

Bah! you're just jealous, now that Jaguars are Fords and Rolls Royce's are volkswagens. All thats left in jolly old England is Cooper, and do i even need to use the penile envy joke that lies within that?

[austin powers] You're spy car is a mini?!? [/austin powers]

Pfft, the guys that make the cars are still Brits, it's no different to us once owning Smith & Wesson and most of your school bus services.

Besides, our vintage models beat the crap out of muscle cars* which have all the elegance of Cold War era Ladas.

*The '65 Mustang in Bullitt being the exception.

But AV, just down the road from where you are Britain's second-biggest (IIRC) car manufacturer is building what can only be described as muscle cars!

http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/cars/tvr_cerbera_sp12.asp

You'll note they actually employ car designers at TVR. They are not cars made from blocks of steel with the biggest damn engine available short of a gas turbine.

Plus, Hollywood likes them a lot now.

The Third Man wrote:But AV, just down the road from where you are Britain's second-biggest (IIRC) car manufacturer is building what can only be described as muscle cars!

http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/cars/tvr_cerbera_sp12.asp

Looks like they are trying to copy the Dodge Viper.

Montcalm wrote:

The Third Man wrote:But AV, just down the road from where you are Britain's second-biggest (IIRC) car manufacturer is building what can only be described as muscle cars!

http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/cars/tvr_cerbera_sp12.asp

Looks like they are trying to copy the Dodge Viper.

Not really, they installed a steering system in this model.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:

Montcalm wrote:

The Third Man wrote:But AV, just down the road from where you are Britain's second-biggest (IIRC) car manufacturer is building what can only be described as muscle cars!

http://www.21stcentury.co.uk/cars/tvr_cerbera_sp12.asp

Looks like they are trying to copy the Dodge Viper.

Not really, they installed a steering system in this model.

On the right or left side

Montcalm wrote:

Admiral Valdemar wrote:

Montcalm wrote: Looks like they are trying to copy the Dodge Viper.

Not really, they installed a steering system in this model.

On the right or left side

As far as I know, in the car... somewhere.

With that much power, things tend to move out of the way of their own accord rather than you go around.

Col. Crackpot wrote:it's pretty cool looking... but i'd rather have this!

There's a thing on GTO, new & old, on the XXX DVD.

The new one looks okay but not as cool as the older models.

At least some of the test results on the new one mention a manual transmission. There's just something wrong about supposed high preformance automobiles having a automatic transmission.

Admiral Valdemar wrote: Pfft, the guys that make the cars are still Brits, it's no different to us once owning Smith & Wesson and most of your school bus services.

Besides, our vintage models beat the crap out of muscle cars* which have all the elegance of Cold War era Ladas.

*The '65 Mustang in Bullitt being the exception.

Tell me you are not refering to the tiny and underpowered Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph tin cans from the 60's? Those cars were about as refined and reliable as Polish farm equipment. The Jaguar XKE was a nice ride, but still it spend more time at the mechanic waiting for parts to arrive from Coventry than it did on the road.

oh and that was a 1968 Mustang in Bullitt.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:You'll note they actually employ car designers at TVR. They are not cars made from blocks of steel with the biggest damn engine available short of a gas turbine.

Plus, Hollywood likes them a lot now.

What's wrong with cars made from blocks of steal with the biggest damn engine available stuffed in them? It's not like anyone needs to be able to stop or turn in the US.


I wish we could put gas turbines in cars.

Unfortunately the US doesn't make those cars anymore. Instead the big slabs of stell are carved into SUVs which are then crammed with the biggest engine available. There have even been advertisements where they make a big deal about the latest Dodge pickup and monster SUV having a Hemi engine in it. The commercial for the pickup has a guy towing a vintage Dodge Charger on a trailer, trying to connect the two in the minds of motorheads.

Tsyroc wrote: There have even been advertisements where they make a big deal about the latest Dodge pickup and monster SUV having a Hemi engine in it. The commercial for the pickup has a guy towing a vintage Dodge Charger on a trailer, trying to connect the two in the minds of motorheads.

i love the stupid rednecks they cast in those ads! 'That thing got a hemi? Well now i got a hemi! An' i got somethin you don't got, check this out!'

lol

Col. Crackpot wrote: i love the stupid rednecks they cast in those ads! 'That thing got a hemi? Well now i got a hemi! An' i got somethin you don't got, check this out!'

lol

In one of the follow-up adds those two "rednecks" are flippin' burgers at some restaurant.

Col. Crackpot wrote:

Admiral Valdemar wrote: Pfft, the guys that make the cars are still Brits, it's no different to us once owning Smith & Wesson and most of your school bus services.

Besides, our vintage models beat the crap out of muscle cars* which have all the elegance of Cold War era Ladas.

*The '65 Mustang in Bullitt being the exception.

Tell me you are not refering to the tiny and underpowered Austin Healey, MG, and Triumph tin cans from the 60's? Those cars were about as refined and reliable as Polish farm equipment. The Jaguar XKE was a nice ride, but still it spend more time at the mechanic waiting for parts to arrive from Coventry than it did on the road.

oh and that was a 1968 Mustang in Bullitt.

1968, so it is. Guess I like the earlier ones too.

And the Healey dealership around me sells the coupés with a range of decent engines, I never too much cared for MGs and Triumphs. You mentioned Triumph? A damn motorbike manufacturer? Their "cars" were as fugly as Ladas and about as fast and reliable. No, I mean the Aston-Martins, the Jag E-Types (amazing car!) and so forth.

Though for any practical modern day car, it's gotta be German or Japanese. My Dad's Audi A4 is, what, nine years old? And it's never broken down or needed repairs.

The Germans were never good with electronics. Not like the Japanese. Your best bet is a Japanese car built in the US or Canada. Honda Accord or Civic, Toyota Corolla etc.

Col. Crackpot wrote:The Germans were never good with electronics. Not like the Japanese. Your best bet is a Japanese car built in the US or Canada. Honda Accord or Civic, Toyota Corolla etc.

I'd have to differ. The Germans have brilliant electronics from all experiences with them. The only problem I have seen was when my Dad needed to check the car's computer was okay since the seal on the casing didn't seem watertight, but that was due to the guys giving the MOT not checking properly.

In anycase, the £80k Merc my uncle has is, to say the least, the sweetest damn car I have been in. Easily nicer than the Maserati and Subarau Impreza WRX neighbours have.

My Dad however has always had a thing for the legendary Golf GTI.

Col. Crackpot wrote:

Admiral Valdemar wrote:I always thought American cars were shit, now it's like someone is running a secret campaign to prove me right once every month.

Bah! you're just jealous, now that Jaguars are Fords and Rolls Royce's are volkswagens. All thats left in jolly old England is Cooper, and do i even need to use the penile envy joke that lies within that?

[austin powers] You're spy car is a mini?!? [/austin powers]

BMW now builds Minis. That's one of the few things they retained when they (finally!) sold Rover.
Oh, and Rolly Royce is not VW. It's owned by BMW, as well.
Bentley is owned by VW, on the other hand.

And German cars are supreme, of course

Dahak wrote:
And German cars are supreme, of course

That they are but too damn expensive most of the time. Even Volkswagon is getting on the bandwagon again and pricing itself out of the range of the lower end buyers.