Themed Alternatives to "Village Idiot" title

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-08 04:44pm

I'd like to suggest a couple of alternatives to the "Village Idiot" title. (Well, who else but a Village Idiot would have a reason to come up with this?)

SW: Rebel Scum, Bantha Fodder, etc.
ST: Pakled (There are more, I'm sure)

Australopithicus · Post by **Australopithicus** » 2002-10-08 05:09pm

I got landed with 'Fundamentalist moron'. I've asked for it to be changed to 'general moron', but no - one's answered.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-08 05:11pm

Users with 'Fundamentalist moron' cannot have their titles changed or removed. Ever.

For VI, we're making an exception for Azeron, since he's so universally hated and is a major idiot.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-08 05:14pm

Major Idiot. A title in itself.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-10-08 05:19pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Users with 'Fundamentalist moron' cannot have their titles changed or removed. Ever.

For VI, we're making an exception for Azeron, since he's so universally hated and is a major idiot.

Ah, but in a way it's a reward. I'm almost convinced he likes his new title.
Much like Sheppard.

And you two stop whining. People who manage to defend there's logic in circular logic and that don't even want to understand the theories they're fighting deserve to be punished in a small funny way.

It's very easy to be normal. When making a mistake just aknowledge it and concede instead of pushing yourselves more into the pit. People who do that are generally quite unbearable.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-08 06:35pm

I would like to state, for the record, that my question regarding circular logic was indeed a genuine one after a certain point... but I would like to add that the concept I was referring to (as was later pointed out) is not, in fact, technically referred to as circular logic, but "inductive reasoning." -- hence my request for clarification of the terms. It was my intuitive conclusion that inductive reasoning is sometimes perfectly reasonable; however, I had never been exposed to the term "inductive reasoning" until it was too late.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-08 09:45pm

Heh heh heh... since I am a Village Idiot, though, I'd like to know what kind of logic (if any) is involved in this:

Q. Why do people go to bed?
A. Because bed won't come to them.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-10-09 07:47am

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Heh heh heh... since I am a Village Idiot, though, I'd like to know what kind of logic (if any) is involved in this:

Q. Why do people go to bed?
A. Because bed won't come to them.

Surprisingly enough, there actually is logic behind that joke.

For most people, it is observation, followed by induction - we've seen a lot of beds, and none of them moved of their own volition, so we don't expect any other beds to move of their own volition either (the same reasoning we use when we expect the sun to come up tomorrow - because it always has before). Humans are able to do this sort of induction instinctively, but the inductive machinery sometimes gets it wrong (usually by generalising too broadly - for example, our Newtonian intuition breaks down when you operate at speeds which are a significant fraction of the speed of light).

Instinctive induction and deduction is otherwise known as intuition

For a physicist with too much time on their hands, it is observation, followed by induction, and then a hell of a lot of deduction as they work everything out from first principles :>

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-09 06:22pm

I tihnk that if a fundamentalist moron changes, they should have their title changed back, if the change is supported by others. I think that a VI is a VI, and there should be no variations to it, except for "Fundie Moron".

THEHOOLIGANJEDI · Post by **THEHOOLIGANJEDI** » 2002-10-09 06:37pm

How about "all around Douche Bag"

I just Love that word.

Evil Sadistic Bastard · Post by **Evil Sadistic Bastard** » 2002-10-09 09:09pm

How about Professional Retard?

That's right, he was born normal, but he wanted to drool and spam so bad he took lessons! (From Darkstar, TOWNMNBS, John Clark, Loser99,etc.)

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2002-10-09 09:12pm

I think that DarkStar should, posthumously, be named a disgrace to multicellular life.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-09 09:13pm

I think we should ditch this whole idea. Trolls'll just be competing to get a special title, even if it is degrading.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-09 09:15pm

Y'all are forgetting that these alternatives are supposed to be Wars or Trek themed.

Cal Wright · Post by **Cal Wright** » 2002-10-09 11:20pm

Oh get over it. You guys should be overly thankful to Mr. Wong for giving you the VI title. I've asked for something other than the Jedi titles. Have I gotten one? Noooo. I'm not willing to venture into your part of the woods to get it changed, but other than that, VI live with it.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-10-09 11:27pm

This reminds me of that story about the dog wearing the bell proudly, but the purpose of the bell was for people to know when the dog was coming so that they could prepare to shoo it away...or...uhh...something like that.

The point is that you shouldn't wear these names proudly. You should be ashamed of them.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-09 11:37pm

Personally, I'm not proud of the VI title, and I think I've dis-earned it, in the eyes of a few people at least.

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2002-10-09 11:40pm

I don't even know why you got the title, but I know that Wong only gives it to people he has reason to believe are racists, nationalistic, fundamentalists, extremely conservative, etc.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2002-10-10 02:50am

How bout....

Jabba's Personal Toy
A Few Decks short of a Star Destroyer
"I Love Jar-Jar"
Heir to the Reject Empire

Nick · Post by **Nick** » 2002-10-10 07:27am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:I don't even know why you got the title, but I know that Wong only gives it to people he has reason to believe are racists, nationalistic, fundamentalists, extremely conservative, etc.

Actually, the main criterion is consistently demonstrating an inability to reason logically or think rationally, despite the volume of information available on the boards and the main site. (These traits are generally necessary in order to be a racist, overly nationalistic, or a fundamentalist).

Raoul acquired the title after appearing to argue that circular logic was a form of logic (it seems this might have been a terminology problem, unlike, say, Azeron, who seems to sincerely believe that circular logic is a valid form of reasoning).

From my POV, Raoul hasn't demonstrated the sheer imperviousness to rational argument that characterises a Village Idiot - he genuinely seems to pay attention to the replies people post. It's more a matter of learning to make sure that what we posts is what he actually means. (Which is all the harder, because the VI title means people are likely to take a negative interpretation of what he says)

(Yes Raoul, there's a very backhanded compliment in there somewhere - I think lumping you with the VI title is a little harsh, but I can certainly understand why you were given it, too. . .)

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-10 05:56pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:I don't even know why you got the title, but I know that Wong only gives it to people he has reason to believe are racists, nationalistic, fundamentalists, extremely conservative, etc.

I am certainly none of those, except possibly conservative (and even that only on some issues, moderately.)

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-10-10 06:09pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I am certainly none of those, except possibly conservative (and even that only on some issues, moderately.)

You got it for blantant stupidity and whining about it won't make it go away.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-10 06:14pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:I am certainly none of those, except possibly conservative (and even that only on some issues, moderately.)
You got it for blantant stupidity and whining about it won't make it go away.

Demonstrate this "blatant stupidity." Or can you?

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2002-10-10 06:20pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Demonstrate this "blatant stupidity." Or can you?

I don't have to, you do an outstanding job of that yourself. That's why you got the Village Idiot title. And as I said before, whining like a little bitch about it would help your cause.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-10 06:45pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Demonstrate this "blatant stupidity." Or can you?
I don't have to, you do an outstanding job of that yourself. That's why you got the Village Idiot title. And as I said before, whining like a little bitch about it would help your cause.

Now this is circular logic in action. Your position essentially seems to be that since I have the Village Idiot title, I must be stupid, therefore justifying the Village Idiot title. Yet you can bring no external evidence to bear to support this claim. You're saying I'm an idiot, so prove it. Your statement that you don't "have to" is a cop-out. The simple fact is that you can't prove it, and no amount of evasion or burden-of-proof fallacies will alter that fact.