A Hypothetical Question
Posted: 2003-12-29 12:49am
ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??
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ok because hypothetically I figured since the dude is dead and all of his stuff was created before the RIAA existed and he was foreign Hypothetically I figured it was a safer bet than hypothetically dl some Ozzy or something similarStormTrooperTR889 wrote:Hypothetically, yes, as it is performed by an hypothetical orchestra. But hypotheitically, your hypothetical chances of getting hypothetically caught are hypothetically low. Hypothetically.
and with all due hypothetical respepect shhhhhhhGandalf wrote:This is stupid, hypothetically of course.
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And hypothetically touching yourself at night.aerius wrote:Hypothetically, you should move to Canada.
yeah I should...........hypothetically.....aerius wrote:Hypothetically, you should move to Canada.
The songs themselves (as originally composed and arranged by Beethoven) are public domain...however the arrangemtn and performance by modern orchestras are NOT in the public domain. basically once you take a piece of music and perform it (especially if you arrange it even slightly different than it originally appeared) then the new arrangement can be copyrighted to you.Darth_Zod wrote:well, beethoven i believe is considered public domain by now. considering how old his works are. though if it's something more modern then i wouldn't get your hopes up. course the only way for someone else to figure out what you have on your hard drive (that i'm aware of) is if you set your file sharing option to share. of course that will make people less likely to share other files with you if you aren't sharing.
Yes. Beethoven might just be sheet music, but the modern performer can copyright their particular arrangement. So yes, it is still quite illegal in the United States and in some places in Europe.russellb6666 wrote:ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??
And that's if you download those new versions and not the original variant itself.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Yes. Beethoven might just be sheet music, but the modern performer can copyright their particular arrangement. So yes, it is still quite illegal in the United States and in some places in Europe.russellb6666 wrote:ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??
Well unless you have a file of a performance more than 100 years old then the perfomrance ITSELF is copyrighted material of the performer. In other words there is no such file out there.Soontir C'boath wrote:And that's if you download those new versions and not the original variant itself.GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:Yes. Beethoven might just be sheet music, but the modern performer can copyright their particular arrangement. So yes, it is still quite illegal in the United States and in some places in Europe.russellb6666 wrote:ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??~Jason
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The money would go to the retailer you bought the durn CD from. That retailer has already sent money to the record company which rleased the classical music CD/ The record company then pays out a portion fo the proceeds from sales to the orchestra (as determiend by their contractual arrangement) and then uses the rest for its own internal puposes. Those include slaries, promotion AND RIAA fees. So yes a SMALL percentage (probably about as much as what the 2nd Violinist would make off of the CD sale) goes to the RIAA.russellb6666 wrote:ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it
ok that sounds reasonable.....but what does a 2nd Violinist make off CD sales??CmdrWilkens wrote:The money would go to the retailer you bought the durn CD from. That retailer has already sent money to the record company which rleased the classical music CD/ The record company then pays out a portion fo the proceeds from sales to the orchestra (as determiend by their contractual arrangement) and then uses the rest for its own internal puposes. Those include slaries, promotion AND RIAA fees. So yes a SMALL percentage (probably about as much as what the 2nd Violinist would make off of the CD sale) goes to the RIAA.russellb6666 wrote:ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it
Something between jack and shit. In a full symphony orchestra the 2nd Violin is actually a pretty big role (its the key voice of harmony versus the melody of the 1st Violin section) anyway the person filling those shoes is likely to be a salaried member of the orchestra and thus unless they are genous just gets to keep his salary (part of which might be paid for out of CD sales proceeds).russellb6666 wrote:ok that sounds reasonable.....but what does a 2nd Violinist make off CD sales??CmdrWilkens wrote:The money would go to the retailer you bought the durn CD from. That retailer has already sent money to the record company which released the classical music CD. The record company then pays out a portion fo the proceeds from sales to the orchestra (as determiend by their contractual arrangement) and then uses the rest for its own internal puposes. Those include slaries, promotion AND RIAA fees. So yes a SMALL percentage (probably about as much as what the 2nd Violinist would make off of the CD sale) goes to the RIAA.russellb6666 wrote:ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it