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Trouts fake orgams....
Posted: 2004-01-10 12:16am
by Mitth`raw`nuruodo
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/05/17/trout_orgasm020517
Female trout faking orgasms
Last Updated Fri, 17 May 2002 20:23:54
GOTEBORG, SWEDEN - Swedish scientists have found that female brown trout fake orgasms in about half of their spawnings.
Most coy female tricked the males eight times before the real spawning
Erik Peterrson of Sweden's National Board of Fisheries said out of 117 spawnings they observed, 69 were false orgasms.
During a normal spawning, the female digs a gravel pit for the eggs. When she prepares to mate, she crouches down to protect the nest, opens her mouth and starts to quiver intensely.
The male then swims alongside the female, assumes the same position,opens his mouth and starts to quiver as well.
After a few seconds, the female releases her eggs and the male fertilizes them.
But the researchers found that sometimes the female fakes it and doesn't release her eggs when the male releases his sperm.
Peterrson said the sperm have to be directly over the eggs or the fertilization rate is very low. He thinks the female fakes it if the male isn't in exactly the right position.
Confused males
"If she feels he is not in the right position or timing, she just stops the process," Peterrson said to CBC Radio's As It Happens. "But the male, he is so excited that he misinterprets the female's cues and goes the whole way. He's a little bit tricked there."
He added the male looks a little confused because when the female fakes orgasm, she doesn't cover the eggs as she would during a normal spawning.
Instead, she may dig some more to prepare the gravel pit for the next mating in about 30 minutes.
* MORE SCIENCE NEWS:cbc.ca/science
And it seems trout aren't alone. Researchers first saw this in Atlantic salmon in 1954. They now think it's common in all salmon.
It's old, but new to me, so I thought I'd share. Apologies if it's been posted already.
Posted: 2004-01-10 12:23am
by DPDarkPrimus
ROFLMAO.
Posted: 2004-01-10 12:27am
by The Cleric
The kind of upbringing that would inspire someone to research this is beyond me.
Posted: 2004-01-10 12:30am
by General Zod
that's . . . .just. . . .bizarre. yet strangely funny.
Posted: 2004-01-10 02:09am
by SyntaxVorlon
Talk about cold fish.
Posted: 2004-01-10 03:48am
by Gil Hamilton
Wow, I had no idea that trout were such tricky minxes.
Posted: 2004-01-10 03:54am
by Iceberg
Gil Hamilton wrote:Wow, I had no idea that trout were such tricky minxes.
We now know two important things about animal mating:
First, we know that humans are not the only animals who mate for pleasure as well as reproduction (dolphins, some primates)
Second, we know that humans are not the only animals who fake orgasms.
Posted: 2004-01-10 05:51am
by neoolong
This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.
Posted: 2004-01-10 06:03am
by Jason von Evil
I wonder if women learned it from trouts or vice versa?
Posted: 2004-01-10 06:20am
by neoolong
Aya wrote:I wonder if women learned it from trouts or vice versa?
It's really a vast female conspiracy. Involving every species on the face of the earth that has separate genders.
A conspiracy I say.
Posted: 2004-01-10 12:13pm
by SyntaxVorlon
neoolong wrote:This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.
Why should other species matter?
Posted: 2004-01-10 01:03pm
by Defiant
This news better not leak to the male trout. Then again, that may be why they swim upstream and kill themselves.
Posted: 2004-01-10 01:15pm
by neoolong
SyntaxVorlon wrote:neoolong wrote:This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.
Why should other species matter?
Because all females stick together. Duh.
Posted: 2004-01-10 02:04pm
by The Cleric
They communicate telepathically with every other female on the planet. It's a proven fact.
Posted: 2004-01-10 09:36pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Not only did the study revealed that, it also revealed that researchers nowadays have too much time on their hands...
Posted: 2004-01-11 12:02am
by SyntaxVorlon
neoolong wrote:SyntaxVorlon wrote:neoolong wrote:This just makes me suspicious of all females of all species.
Why should other species matter?
Because all females stick together. Duh.
Oh. I thought you might be getting desparate.
researchers nowadays have too much time on their hands...
Hand.
[Edit]I just wanted to clear up the meaning there[/edit]
Posted: 2004-01-11 12:38am
by HemlockGrey
The practical applications of this information are astonishing.
Posted: 2004-01-11 12:41am
by SyntaxVorlon
HemlockGrey wrote:The practical applications of this information are astonishing.
Doubtless, even if there were, they would be.
Posted: 2004-01-11 01:31am
by Vertigo1
Aya wrote:I wonder if women learned it from trouts or vice versa?
They probably adapted that tactic to hide their eggs from predators.
Kinda like sea turtles did multiple nest sites before they lay the real deal, to keep the Dingos guessing.
Posted: 2004-01-12 01:13am
by neoolong
SyntaxVorlon wrote:neoolong wrote:SyntaxVorlon wrote:
Why should other species matter?
Because all females stick together. Duh.
Oh. I thought you might be getting desparate.
Hand.
I'm sure you have much more experience with that than I do. Since that is what you were thinking of.
Posted: 2004-01-12 02:07am
by SyntaxVorlon
Clarification made.
Posted: 2004-01-12 02:29am
by Rathark
I trust there were no trout in Finding Nemo ...
Posted: 2004-01-13 10:46pm
by Darth Yoshi
Now that's just weird. I'm afraid now.