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Is Raoul Duke, Jr an idiotic, illogical moron?
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:08pm
by Wicked Pilot
Observe his understanding of Occam's Razor:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Actually, Darth, that's your corner, not mine. Occam's Razor being what it is, though, the simplest explanation is generally the shortest. That being, "There's a god, but he minds his own business these days."
Defending his position that the Feds would beat the Empire because the Empire has a huge numerical advantage:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Right. Are you disputing that the more ships come around, the more you have to shoot at? Is that in question?
Saying how circular logic is in fact logical
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:And yes indeed, that is circular logic. Kind of like the kind that sees a man typing, "I am typing on a keyboard" at a keyboard. Even circular logic is sometimes logical.
Last, he says most people don't believe he's an idiot.
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:You're one of the few people left here who insist that I'm an idiot
Well, is he? You decide.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:09pm
by Alyeska
The Empire has a numerical advantage thus it will loose?
Now thats the first time I have heard such a statement.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:17pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Alyeska wrote:The Empire has a numerical advantage thus it will loose?
Now thats the first time I have heard such a statement.
Did I say they would lose? I don't recall seeing that in there...
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:23pm
by Master of Ossus
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Alyeska wrote:The Empire has a numerical advantage thus it will loose?
Now thats the first time I have heard such a statement.
Did I say they would lose? I don't recall seeing that in there...
IIRC, you did not say that they would lose, but you did say that the numbers would be a disadvantage.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:26pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Master of Ossus wrote:Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Alyeska wrote:The Empire has a numerical advantage thus it will loose?
Now thats the first time I have heard such a statement.
Did I say they would lose? I don't recall seeing that in there...
IIRC, you did not say that they would lose, but you did say that the numbers would be a disadvantage.
They have the potential to be, in certain situations, yes.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:27pm
by Master of Ossus
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Master of Ossus wrote: IIRC, you did not say that they would lose, but you did say that the numbers would be a disadvantage.
They have the potential to be, in certain situations, yes.
What are you basing that on?
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:29pm
by Stormbringer
Master of Ossus wrote:Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Master of Ossus wrote: IIRC, you did not say that they would lose, but you did say that the numbers would be a disadvantage.
They have the potential to be, in certain situations, yes.
What are you basing that on?
I suppose, logistics would be a bigger problem as would friendly fire. But comptence on the part of the Empire would reduce both to nil.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:30pm
by Stormbringer
And yes, he is an idiotic, illogical moron
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:32pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Master of Ossus wrote:Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Master of Ossus wrote: IIRC, you did not say that they would lose, but you did say that the numbers would be a disadvantage.
They have the potential to be, in certain situations, yes.
What are you basing that on?
Well, it's probably not logical, and there may be evidence against it, but...
When you have large attack groups, a lack of distance between individual targets in those attack groups can lead to targets being hit by debris by other targets, and shots that would ordinarily miss may strike targets by sheer chance.
Example: large group of TIEs -- one gets taken out, another is too close and collides with it. Thus 2 TIEs taken out with an attack that otherwise would only have coster one fighter and one pilot.
I don't know, maybe it's intuitive thinking or maybe it's just stupid.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:37pm
by Lagmonster
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:They (large numbers) have the potential to be, in certain situations, yes.
The old agage is, "No group of well-armed, disciplined troops is ever outnumbered by a mob."
The feds are not well-armed or disciplined, and the Empire's fleet is not a mob.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:42pm
by ArmorPierce
Oh, now I see why he got tagged with the village idiot title.
Posted: 2002-10-10 08:47pm
by Sea Skimmer
Yes he is a moron, and the way thigns are going this thread will be the only example needed.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:12pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Yep, there you go. I'm a fucking moron. Nothing I say has any validity whatsoever. I daresay I'm too fucking stupid to live.
EDIT: You know, there's a difference between saying to someone, "Your argument is wrong, and here's why," and the standard playground favorite, "You're stupid!" Yeah, I may be stupid, but at least I'm learning.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:16pm
by Sea Skimmer
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Yep, there you go. I'm a fucking moron. Nothing I say has any validity whatsoever. I daresay I'm too fucking stupid to live.
I suggest you optain a firearm at once to correct the problume.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:17pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Sea Skimmer wrote:Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Yep, there you go. I'm a fucking moron. Nothing I say has any validity whatsoever. I daresay I'm too fucking stupid to live.
I suggest you optain a firearm at once to correct the problume.
That
would be the rational thing to do, wouldn't it?
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:22pm
by Cal Wright
Yeah, actually it would be.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:22pm
by Sea Skimmer
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Sea Skimmer wrote:Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Yep, there you go. I'm a fucking moron. Nothing I say has any validity whatsoever. I daresay I'm too fucking stupid to live.
I suggest you optain a firearm at once to correct the problume.
That
would be the rational thing to do, wouldn't it?
Yes, do what Skimmer tells you. You already know your brain can't be trusted. Course thats your brain telling you not to trust it self, so just who can you trust...
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:24pm
by Raoul Duke, Jr.
Sea Skimmer wrote:Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Sea Skimmer wrote:
I suggest you optain a firearm at once to correct the problume.
That
would be the rational thing to do, wouldn't it?
Yes, do what Skimmer tells you. You already know your brain can't be trusted. Course thats your brain telling you not to trust it self, so just who can you trust...
Doesn't matter. I don't know why I care what you all think, but oddly enough, I do. This hurts.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:28pm
by Stormbringer
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:
Doesn't matter. I don't know why I care what you all think, but oddly enough, I do. This hurts.
Sorry, man. We took it a little too far.
But try to shape up, ok?
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:31pm
by HemlockGrey
Stop ragging on the guy. I kinda like him.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:34pm
by Stormbringer
Raoul, if you really do want to become a better debater pick up a textbook on logic. Most of you problem is that you just don't know. I know, my logic class last year helped me out a lot in that regard. In fact I kept the textbook for refernce.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:37pm
by Darth Wong
Cyril wrote:Stop ragging on the guy. I kinda like him.
He's not evil or sadistic, like Arminius and to a lesser extent, Azeron, but he's aggravatingly illogical. Did you see Wicked Pilot's collection of his most astoundingly stupid arguments?
This is the guy who said that the Feddies should use those TR-16 rifles from DS9 by LAUNCHING SNIPERS INTO SPACE ON CAPTURED ESCAPE PODS DURING SPACE COMBAT!!!!
I know you're probably reluctant to be mean to someone who's just dense as opposed to sexist, racist, or homophobic, but honestly, what the fuck kind of drugs does somebody have to smoke in order to think up a tactic like that?
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:39pm
by Sea Skimmer
Darth Wong wrote:Cyril wrote:Stop ragging on the guy. I kinda like him.
He's not evil or sadistic, like Arminius and to a lesser extent, Azeron, but he's aggravatingly illogical. Did you see Wicked Pilot's collection of his most astoundingly stupid arguments?
This is the guy who said that the Feddies should use those TR-16 rifles from DS9 by LAUNCHING SNIPERS INTO SPACE ON CAPTURED ESCAPE PODS DURING SPACE COMBAT!!!!
I know you're probably reluctant to be mean to someone who's just dense as opposed to sexist, racist, or homophobic, but honestly, what the fuck kind of drugs does somebody have to smoke in order to think up a tactic like that?
I can't tell if that's a step up or down from the idea of firing phaser rifles out of starship windows to fend off TIE attacks.
Q!
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:39pm
by Stormbringer
Darth Wong wrote:
This is the guy who said that the Feddies should use those TR-16 rifles from DS9 by LAUNCHING SNIPERS INTO SPACE ON CAPTURED ESCAPE PODS DURING SPACE COMBAT!!!!
I know you're probably reluctant to be mean to someone who's just dense as opposed to sexist, racist, or homophobic, but honestly, what the fuck kind of drugs does somebody have to smoke in order to think up a tactic like that?
JESUS TAP DANCING CHRIST! Now that's dumb. That's dumb on a level i never knew existed before.
Posted: 2002-10-10 09:41pm
by HemlockGrey
Wong wrote:He's not evil or sadistic, like Arminius and to a lesser extent, Azeron, but he's aggravatingly illogical. Did you see Wicked Pilot's collection of his most astoundingly stupid arguments?
This is the guy who said that the Feddies should use those TR-16 rifles from DS9 by LAUNCHING SNIPERS INTO SPACE ON CAPTURED ESCAPE PODS DURING SPACE COMBAT!!!!
I know you're probably reluctant to be mean to someone who's just dense as opposed to sexist, racist, or homophobic, but honestly, what the fuck kind of drugs does somebody have to smoke in order to think up a tactic like that?
Eh. At least he appears to be willing to learn from his mistakes, as opposed to DarkStar, and off-debate I find him to be a witty and generally OK guy.