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When cops find drugs on a suspect...

Posted: 2004-01-25 09:46am
by Perinquus
You know, I've been a Norfolk police officer for about three years now. During that time I've arrested innumerable suspects for drug offenses. Sometimes you find a small amount, enough to charge with posession. Other times, you find enough to charge with intent to distribute. But whatever amount you find, I've noticed something a bit curious.

In movies, and on cop shows on TV, the suspect invariably plays the wronged innocent, and also invariably says: "You planted that! I never seen that shit before," or words to that effect. But you know, they almost never say that in real life. Occasionally they will, but it's actually quite rare. They still play the wronged innocent though. And you know they do say? "Man, these ain't my pants." Or they'll say shirt, jacket, shoes, hat, whatever, depending on where you find the drugs or drug paraphernalia. They're never wearing their own clothes. They always borrowed what they've got on from some buddy of theirs, yet strangely he's a guy they always know only by either his first name, or his "street name". They can't even tell you where he lives, but they're close enough friends to wear each other's clothes casually. I suspect you never hear this excuse on the cop shows because audiences who don't know better would think it's too farfetched, and wouldn't buy it, but this really is what they say 9 times out of 10.

I have even been present in central booking when a suspect was strip searched, and a crack pipe was found in the waistband of his BVDs... And you guessed it! "Man, these ain't my drawers!" (They were none too clean either.) So this suspect wanted us to believe he just grabbed his buddy's underpants (out of the dirty clothes pile presumably, given how grey they were) and slapped them on before walking out the door. Moreover, he was strangely unable to feel that three inch-long metal crack pipe in the waistband. And, of course, he only knew this guy, whom he was on good enough terms with to wear his drawers, as "T-bone", and, of course :roll: had no idea what his real name was...

I am not making this up.

Folks, let me tell you, the "criminal mastermind" is practically a myth. 99.9% of these fools are about as smart as a bag of hammers. It really came as an eye opening experience to me the shit they will tell you, and apparently sincerely hope you will swallow.

Posted: 2004-01-25 12:08pm
by Sir Sirius
Why do they even bother telling such obvious tall tales? No cop, judge or jury in their right mind is ever going to belief them.

Re: When cops find drugs on a suspect...

Posted: 2004-01-25 12:22pm
by Tsyroc
Perinquus wrote: I have even been present in central booking when a suspect was strip searched, and a crack pipe was found in the waistband of his BVDs... And you guessed it! "Man, these ain't my drawers!" (They were none too clean either.) So this suspect wanted us to believe he just grabbed his buddy's underpants (out of the dirty clothes pile presumably, given how grey they were) and slapped them on before walking out the door.
Believe it or not there was a guy on my first ship who would "dive" in the dirty clothes bin for t-shirts and undewear to wear when he ran out. They didn't have to be his. He also had mold growing on his back so...... Still, I think even he would have been smart enough to notice the crack pipe. :)

Posted: 2004-01-25 12:25pm
by Montcalm
I guess during strip search if drugs are found in his rectum,the perps will say its not his ass. :roll:

Posted: 2004-01-25 12:35pm
by Tsyroc
Montcalm wrote:I guess during strip search if drugs are found in his rectum,the perps will say its not his ass. :roll:
or "How'd those get there? You cops must have planted them." :)

Posted: 2004-01-25 12:41pm
by The Aliens
Are there any differences in penalties for people who fess up and people who deny it? If not, then a slim hope is better than no hope- by telling the story they may get off with it.

Well, glad I'm in Canada, if you have enough for personal use it's only a fine, none of this court rubbish.

Posted: 2004-01-25 02:09pm
by HemlockGrey
Frankly, just once on COPS I'd like to see some sort of brilliant criminal genius who completely eludes the police, just for a change, ya know?

Posted: 2004-01-25 03:02pm
by Nathan F
Sir Sirius wrote:Why do they even bother telling such obvious tall tales? No cop, judge or jury in their right mind is ever going to belief them.
Because they're idiots.

Perinquus, I know what you mean. Dad's a game warden and you wouldn't BELIEVE some of the crap he get's told. Take for instance the guy who shot the bull elk that was just released here in East Tenn., and said that he thought it was a deer. I'm sorry, but you don't mistake a 1000lb bull elk for a 200lb deer.

Posted: 2004-01-25 03:09pm
by Montcalm
HemlockGrey wrote:Frankly, just once on COPS I'd like to see some sort of brilliant criminal genius who completely eludes the police, just for a change, ya know?
If there are some criminal geniuses who can or have eluded the cops,they`ll never show it on tv.

Posted: 2004-01-25 03:18pm
by Bob McDob
Do they ever say "Get your dirty paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"? :)

Posted: 2004-01-25 03:27pm
by neoolong
Bob McDob wrote:Do they ever say "Get your dirty paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"? :)
Wouldn't that take someone who watched old sci-fi movies? Doesn't seem to be the right crowd.

Posted: 2004-01-25 03:51pm
by Darth Wong
It's not surprising. Think about the people in your high school that got involved in criminal activities. How many of them were smart? None, as far as I can recall. How many of them were even average? None, as far as I can recall. They were generally morons, which is one of the reasons they commit crimes: they lack the ability to evaluate the risk/benefit ratio of crime.

Mind you, white-collar crime is different. The risk/benefit ratio there is far better; even if you're caught you only do "golf-club prison" time anyway and get to keep most of the spoils.

Posted: 2004-01-26 02:48am
by Bob McDob
neoolong wrote:
Bob McDob wrote:Do they ever say "Get your dirty paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"? :)
Wouldn't that take someone who watched old sci-fi movies? Doesn't seem to be the right crowd.
You're right ... this is more the "Me Tarzan, you ... duh .... um ... Tarzan horny!" crowd.

Posted: 2004-01-26 05:07am
by The Morrigan
Darth Wong wrote:Mind you, white-collar crime is different. The risk/benefit ratio there is far better; even if you're caught you only do "golf-club prison" time anyway and get to keep most of the spoils.
That's what shits me to tears. White-collar criminals are often people who have enough brains/education to know better, but many of them seem to walk away with a slap on the wrist. :evil: