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Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-02-20 07:43am

a year ago today 100 lives ended in fire. 60 children were orphaned. 200 were maimed. all becuase of recklessness and greed. They were people just like us. Mostly young, some with young children. All were out on a thursday night and their only crime was looking for a good time. Think about this next time you go to a club or a bar. take the extra second of your time and look for a way out if something were to go wrong.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111982,00.html

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-02-20 07:54am

*moment of silence*..... Here is fixing the system that caused it,.....

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-20 08:18am

Col. Crackpot wrote:Think about this next time you go to a club or a bar. take the extra second of your time and look for a way out if something were to go wrong.

I've seen studies that suggest that in a panic, people tend to use the entrances as exits. They studied videotapes of disasters, and even when emergency exits were clearly labelled, they were ignored by most people in favor for the way they came in. The only way to fix this would be to use the emergency exits as entrances, but that would mean more security personnel and higher costs.

Comosicus · Post by **Comosicus** » 2004-02-20 07:08pm

A year ago, in my town there was a Miss contest for the 9th grade and at a moment the contestants were to dance inside a circle of fire. But one of the boys that poured the spirit triped, the bottle exploaded and a couple of pupils died from their burns. It's sad when things like this happen and makes you realise that safe is such a relative word.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-02-20 07:12pm

I remember when I was a kid, some theatres would have a person stand up at the front with a microphone and point out the emergency exits for the audience prior to the show. Perhaps they should make that practice mandatory. People are more likely to remember the emergency exits if somebody makes a point of telling people about them before the show.

TrailerParkJawa · Post by **TrailerParkJawa** » 2004-02-20 11:32pm

I believe in the night club fire some of the exits were almost unused. Part of the problem is the smoke makes everything so dark. Large groups of people get panicky where an individual does not.

I remember about month after the quake in 1989 there was an aftershock. I was at a movie theatre and half the people in the movie freaked out and ran for the exits. I was more scared of their panic than the tremor.

Post by **Kuja** » 2004-02-21 02:25am

Every time I read a thread like this, I'm reminded of my favorite quote from Men in Black:

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2004-02-21 02:38am

You know what's sad? The people that set those fireworks up are going to do it again for the next Grizzlies game here in Memphis in the Pyramid.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-02-21 03:33am

Darth Wong wrote:I remember when I was a kid, some theatres would have a person stand up at the front with a microphone and point out the emergency exits for the audience prior to the show. Perhaps they should make that practice mandatory. People are more likely to remember the emergency exits if somebody makes a point of telling people about them before the show.

Better yet, they shouldn't do an indoor pyro show.

~ver

CDiehl · Post by **CDiehl** » 2004-02-21 12:56pm

I'd like to know why you are so convinced that you couldn't explain your ideas to the owners of these venues and let them decide. The next fire that kills a hundred people will almost certainly have nothing to do with pyrotechnics. No number of laws, no matter how well-intentioned, would have prevented that fire, because nobody can legislate incompetence or bad luck away.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-02-21 01:04pm

verilon wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:I remember when I was a kid, some theatres would have a person stand up at the front with a microphone and point out the emergency exits for the audience prior to the show. Perhaps they should make that practice mandatory. People are more likely to remember the emergency exits if somebody makes a point of telling people about them before the show.
Better yet, they shouldn't do an indoor pyro show.

~ver

in the nightclub that burned, the owners used highly combustible packing foam as sound insulation. it was everywhere... on the stage, the ceiling the walls. A person who lived behind the club was a sales rep for a foam company and sold the owners the shit. Both he, and the owners knew it was the flammable variety of foam, but it was cheap. Not only that, but one of the owners, Michael Derderian was a news reporter for WPRI in Providence, and he actually did a news report a month before on the dangers ouf using the exact same type of foam as bedding because it is so highly combustable. What infuriates me to no end is that the town fire marshall passed the club when they had their building inspection a few months before. The owners have been charged with 100 counts of involuntary manslaughter each, and over 200 counts of negligence reulting in injury. BUT THE FIRE MARSHALL GETS NOTHING!

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