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salm wrote:us citizens give votes to a guy from a certain party from the state the citizens live in. these state guys then elect the president. people who live outside the usa give their votes to the guys from the states they´ve lived in last. now, i´ve got dual citizenship (german/usa) but i´ve never lived in the states.
i´ve never thought about it because i never considered voting in the states because i dont live there. i´ve just voted in germany.
the next time i want to vote though just to help getting rid of bush.

so, does anyone know whom i´d give my vote?

phongn wrote:AFAIK, the United States does not recognize dual citizenship (ie Germany will, but the US will not)?

EDIT: I'm wrong, they do recognize it.

As such, I'm pretty sure you can't vote, seeing as you would not be able to register in a state for an absentee ballot.

Captain Lennox wrote:Just a little history lesson the only time something like this happened was the slave wars in Kansas I forgot the offical name, blood everywhere sign of war too come. (The Civil War)

salm wrote:

phongn wrote:AFAIK, the United States does not recognize dual citizenship (ie Germany will, but the US will not)?

EDIT: I'm wrong, they do recognize it.

As such, I'm pretty sure you can't vote, seeing as you would not be able to register in a state for an absentee ballot.

of course the usa recognizes dual citizenship. why do so many people believe they dont? i´m living proof for it. i´ve got an american and german passport. i´m citizen of germany and of the usa.
and i hope for democracy´s sake that a citizen of the usa must be allowed to vote in the usa.

IG-88E wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:Just a little history lesson the only time something like this happened was the slave wars in Kansas I forgot the offical name, blood everywhere sign of war too come. (The Civil War)

"Bleeding Kansas" was the name.

salm wrote: what if an american is born in a foreign country and has never lived in the states?

salm wrote:ok, nevermind the dual citizenship, the us probably doesnt even know nor care if i´ve got the german citizenship and vice versa.

what if an american is born in a foreign country and has never lived in the states?

salm wrote:ok, nevermind the dual citizenship, the us probably doesnt even know nor care if i´ve got the german citizenship and vice versa.

what if an american is born in a foreign country and has never lived in the states?

OVERSEAS CITIZENS
If I do not maintain a legal residence in the U.S., what is my "legal state of residence?"

Your "legal state of residence" for voting purposes is the state or territory where you last resided immediately prior to your departure from the United States. This right extends to overseas citizens even though they may not have property or other ties in their last state or territory of residence and their intent to return to that state or territory may be uncertain. When completing the residence section of the FPCA, be sure to enter the entire mailing address of your last residence, including street or rural route and number. This information is necessary to place you in the proper voting district, ward, precinct or parish. Family members of citizens residing overseas, who are U.S. citizens and who have never resided in the U.S., usually, if the state allows, claim one of their U.S. citizen parent's legal state or territory of residence as their own. Check Chapter 3 of the Guide.

The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.

Mr. Mister wrote:Governments discourage dual citizenship because it's a bureacratic hassle for them. Plus, it can cause you trouble if you have conflicting committments (say, you get drafted in one country while a court in another one's just sub-poenaed you to come testify against somebody).

phongn wrote:AFAIK, the United States does not recognize dual citizenship (ie Germany will, but the US will not)?

EDIT: I'm wrong, they do recognize it.

Captain Lennox wrote:

salm wrote:

phongn wrote:AFAIK, the United States does not recognize dual citizenship (ie Germany will, but the US will not)?

EDIT: I'm wrong, they do recognize it.

As such, I'm pretty sure you can't vote, seeing as you would not be able to register in a state for an absentee ballot.

of course the usa recognizes dual citizenship. why do so many people believe they dont? i´m living proof for it. i´ve got an american and german passport. i´m citizen of germany and of the usa.
and i hope for democracy´s sake that a citizen of the usa must be allowed to vote in the usa.

No, dumbass your allowed only too enter the countrt. Need a thing called citizenship.

salm wrote:ok, nevermind the dual citizenship, the us probably doesnt even know nor care if i´ve got the german citizenship and vice versa.

what if an american is born in a foreign country and has never lived in the states?