Those God Damn unlauts.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 12:57am

I am getting sick of trying to type my german homework and having to insert the umlauts by hand. how do i insert them using word?

Hyperion · Post by **Hyperion** » 2002-10-22 01:02am

what the freck is an "umlaut"?

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-10-22 01:05am

I don't know what the "umlats" are either but is it something you can put in by using the character map (on Windows) or is that what you mean by putting them in by hand?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:10am

They are the two dots above certain letters in the german language. they denotate a vowel+e sound. Uber has umlauts and is pronounced Ueber. But I need to be able to put in the umlauts.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-22 01:10am

Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer
Führer

Just hold

ALT

then type in 0 2 4 6 on your numeric keypad to get

ö

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:12am

thank you but how would i get them over other letters?

Sebastin · Post by **Sebastin** » 2002-10-22 01:12am

They look like Ä ä Ö ö Ü ü. And then there´s the ß. pronounced sz.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:15am

actually the ß is a double s sound

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-10-22 01:16am

ÜüÖöÏïËëÄä

These are available with the character map.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:19am

character map?

I have no ida how to get to it

Sebastin · Post by **Sebastin** » 2002-10-22 01:19am

actually the ß is a double s sound

Yes, but the "name" of the character is sz.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:20am

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-22 01:21am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:actually the ß is a double s sound

Doesn't really matter that much these days. With the current German language revisions, the es-set should be phased out within a few decades (replaced with "ss").

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:23am

That is what we are doing in german class, phasing those out. we no longer use them

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-10-22 01:24am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:character map?

I have no ida how to get to it

If you're using Windows it can usually be found in Accessories under System Tools. It's the icon that looks like a keyboard key. Once you open it just set it to the font you are using and then you can copy and paste from there. It's still not the greatest way to do things but it gives you some cool options.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:25am

thank you

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2002-10-22 01:28am

Fuck it isnt there. I will have to ask my german teacher.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-10-22 01:29am

You're welcome. I hope it works out for you.

Supposedly the character map also tells you how to type the specific symbols without doing the copy/paste thing but I've never had much luck trying that method.

CmdrSweevo · Post by **CmdrSweevo** » 2002-10-22 02:47am

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Fuck it isnt there. I will have to ask my german teacher.

Try rooting around your windows directory for charmap.exe

Tsyroc wrote: Supposedly the character map also tells you how to type the specific symbols without doing the copy/paste thing but I've never had much luck trying that method.

If you click on the character the status bar at the bottom should give you the alt+ code.

ä = Alt+0228
ë = Alt+0235
ï = Alt+0239
ö = Alt+0246
ü = Alt+0252

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2002-10-22 11:16am

Also, at lot of Windows installs will leave stuff like the character map out. If you can't find it using the search function it's possible you can load it or activate it by going to Add/Remove Programs and then selecting Window's setup. From there scroll down to System Tools and select it so you can see which of your system tools have been installed. If the character map isn't already installed you can add it though you may need your Windows disk.

salm · Post by **salm** » 2002-10-22 11:29am

the ü is left of the p
the ö is left of the l
the ä is left of the ö
the ß is left of the 0
MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

on serious terms:

the ß isnt gone yet. it´s still used at the end of words after long vowels and after ei and ie. back in the days s in the end of word was alway ß

e.g.
Fuß
but
Fluss (befor the rechtschreib reform: Fluß)

but now that i´m in college it doesnt matter anyway as long as they get what i want to say. correct spellin = evil

Johonebesus · Post by **Johonebesus** » 2002-10-22 04:44pm

An easier way is to change your keyboard language. Go to the control panel and select "regional and language options." Select the "language" tab, and then "details." A new window appears. Under the "settings" you will have the option to add a new input language. Click on that button to get a third window, then select "United States-Devorak" for the keyboard layout/IME. You might need the installation disk. This is for XP, in 98 it is under "keyboard properties." The process is a little different, but basically you want your language set to US International and the keyboard layout to US Devorak.

Once you go through all that, the (`), (~), ('), ("), & (^) keys become accents. For ü, you just type (")(u). You can also use (R-Alt) to access additional characters. (R-Alt)(s) is ß, (R-Alt)(z) is æ, etc. The left Alt button is unchanged. The only thing you have to get used to is putting spaces after quotation marks: "u is typed (")(space)(u). Once you get used to using the quotation marks correctly, it makes typing in another language a lot easier. You won't have to worry about the character map at all, unless you need some obscure character.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-22 04:52pm

This is why I don't tkae a language that requires you to use a bunch of letters that aren't on the keyboard. Think about the students taking Japanese! |5èéÖþ%

It's amazing what you can find by randomly pressing Alt. and 3 numbers to the far right of the keyboard.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-22 05:06pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:This is why I don't tkae a language that requires you to use a bunch of letters that aren't on the keyboard. Think about the students taking Japanese! |5èéÖþ%

It's amazing what you can find by randomly pressing Alt. and 3 numbers to the far right of the keyboard.

I have a Windows plug-in that allows me to type in Japanese. You type in romaji letters that are converted into either katakana or hiragana, then automatically converts recognised words into kanji. You select what kanji characters you want it to use.

Pretty interesting.

Luke Starkiller · Post by **Luke Starkiller** » 2002-10-22 06:01pm

You said you are using Word correct?

If so then go to the 'Insert' menu and select the 'Symbol' or 'Character' option, this should also let you set your own shortcuts for symbols you use often, I had the same problem with typing in French with all the accents.

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Those God Damn unlauts.

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