Cops digging up backyard in Washington State

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-23 08:06pm

...and removing BIG BULKY objects from the place....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66470,00.html

Maybe Matt Hyde (AKA Oberon) is the gunman!

After all he is ex-military and white...so he must
be the sniper according to CNN ex-FBI profilers...

Seriously, I wonder what they're finding in that place../and I've
heard rumors that search warrants are being served all over
the USA...

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-23 08:07pm

MKSheppard wrote:...and removing BIG BULKY objects from the place....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66470,00.html

Maybe Matt Hyde (AKA Oberon) is the gunman!

After all he is ex-military and white...so he must
be the sniper according to CNN ex-FBI profilers...

Seriously, I wonder what they're finding in that place../and I've
heard rumors that search warrants are being served all over
the USA...

Frankly I'm looking at you if it's anyone of the boards.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-23 08:30pm

Just realized that Shep gets 99 percent of his news from Fox.

...not surprising, really.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-10-23 08:45pm

Cyril wrote:Just realized that Shep gets 99 percent of his news from Fox.

...not surprising, really.

To his credit, it is the only reliable mass-market television media service in the USA.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-23 08:46pm

I think FOX is more reliable than the biased crap you get on CNN.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-23 08:46pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Cyril wrote:Just realized that Shep gets 99 percent of his news from Fox.

...not surprising, really.

To his credit, it is the only reliable mass-market television media service in the USA.

It's no more reliable than CNN or MSNBC. Which is to say questionable at best.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-10-23 08:47pm

MKSheppard wrote:...and removing BIG BULKY objects from the place....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,66470,00.html

Maybe Matt Hyde (AKA Oberon) is the gunman!

After all he is ex-military and white...so he must
be the sniper according to CNN ex-FBI profilers...

Seriously, I wonder what they're finding in that place../and I've
heard rumors that search warrants are being served all over
the USA...

They're just reporting that warrants are being served elsewhere; not necessarily true.

I think this increases the possibility that there may be a link to terrorism, though the lone-madman is still more likely. It got knocked down a few pegs by this development, however...

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-10-23 08:48pm

Stormbringer wrote:
It's no more reliable than CNN or MSNBC. Which is to say questionable at best.

Well, MSNBC, CNN, and the network media, they all have a liberal bias, especially the network media the most. CNN the least of those, but it is still noticable. Fox is moderate in its views, but I admit it is rather more sensationalist.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2002-10-23 08:49pm

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
It's no more reliable than CNN or MSNBC. Which is to say questionable at best.
Well, MSNBC, CNN, and the network media, they all have a liberal bias, especially the network media the most. CNN the least of those, but it is still noticable. Fox is moderate in its views, but I admit it is rather more sensationalist.

It's no more sensationalistic than the rest. And it's got as much a right wing bias as most do to the left.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-23 09:18pm

http://abc.net.au/newsradio/ A very good news service with an internet broadcast.

Or you could just cave in to the awesome power of BBC World...

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2002-10-23 09:20pm

The idea that the sniper is working with terrorists is simple, infantile paranoia. It makes absolutely no sense. He hasn't been targeting congressmen; he's only shot the White House director of cyber-security, while shooting 8 or 9 other, completely random people. He also allegedly left a Taroh card behind that said, "I am God." Such a statement would be blasphemous if he was working for Al Quaeda.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-23 09:21pm

I believe the count is 12, now.

oberon · Post by **oberon** » 2002-10-23 09:55pm

It's not Washington state, it's Tacoma. There's a difference.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-10-23 09:58pm

oberon wrote:It's not Washington state, it's Tacoma. There's a difference.

There he is!

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-10-23 10:09pm

Durandal wrote:The idea that the sniper is working with terrorists is simple, infantile paranoia. It makes absolutely no sense. He hasn't been targeting congressmen; he's only shot the White House director of cyber-security, while shooting 8 or 9 other, completely random people. He also allegedly left a Taroh card behind that said, "I am God." Such a statement would be blasphemous if he was working for Al Quaeda.

We only have the details on the Tarot card from leaks, they were never officially released. Furthermore, Islam allows for Jihadis to use deception while fighting a Holy War. Also - This would be, in fact, the most perfect way I could think of for them to spread terror. It isn't a high profile target; it is simply random Americans going about their daily business.

If they're really in the business of trying to terrorize the USA, this is how they would ideally do it, and they've even trained to do it exactly like this.

oberon · Post by **oberon** » 2002-10-23 10:16pm

So apparently they removed a tree trunk, went over it with metal detectors, and moved it with a U-Haul truck in a motorcade to the Lakewood Precinct of the Pierce County Sherrif, where it's just arrived. Fort Lewis is a base that has a sniper school, it's just south of Tacoma, and the former residents of this duplex were soldiers stationed there.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2002-10-23 10:59pm

The suspects' names are Lee Malvo and John Mohammad. That is all.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-24 10:09am

Durandal wrote:The idea that the sniper is working with terrorists is simple, infantile paranoia. It makes absolutely no sense. He hasn't been targeting congressmen; he's only shot the White House director of cyber-security, while shooting 8 or 9 other, completely random people. He also allegedly left a Taroh card behind that said, "I am God." Such a statement would be blasphemous if he was working for Al Quaeda.

It's called "misdirection" AKA "red herrings"

You forget that the object of terrorism is to spread FEAR, and these guys have
got the entire place up in arms, kids afraid to go to school, etc etc

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