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Porn vs Prostitution

Posted: 2004-04-26 05:53pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Isn't it considered prostitution if a porn star receives money for having sex with someone? How is it legal?

Posted: 2004-04-26 06:06pm
by Montcalm
Its different cause both men and women are paid,while prostitution only one is paid and they get screwed. :wink:

Posted: 2004-04-26 06:10pm
by The Aliens
Montcalm wrote:Its different cause both men and women are paid,while prostitution only one is paid and they get screwed. :wink:
There are male prostitues as well, and it's no more legal.

Re: Porn vs Prostitution

Posted: 2004-04-26 06:55pm
by General Zod
IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Isn't it considered prostitution if a porn star receives money for having sex with someone? How is it legal?
with pornography they're not being paid to have sex, they're being paid to let themselves be filmed while having sex, as closet sci fi fan mentioned. It's a minor semantic difference, but it's the biggest thing that separates the two.

So while the prostitute is providing sex to anyone that can afford it, the porn star is only fucking other professionals and being paid so that other people can watch them fuck. She's not actually being paid for having sex in and of itself.

Posted: 2004-04-26 06:59pm
by Middleclass
Darth Zod wrote:So while the prostitute is providing sex to anyone that can afford it, the porn star is only fucking other professionals and being paid so that other people can watch them fuck. She's not actually being paid for having sex in and of itself.
This, of course, leads to an interesting legal loophole. Give a friend $400. Have him hire both the prostitute and you for a porn, paying $200 each. Screw in front of a camera, and it's all nice and legal, as far as I know.

Not that I've thought about it. :twisted:

Re: Porn vs Prostitution

Posted: 2004-04-26 07:03pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Darth_Zod wrote:with pornography they're not being paid to have sex, they're being paid to let themselves be filmed while having sex, as closet sci fi fan mentioned. It's a minor semantic difference, but it's the biggest thing that separates the two.

So while the prostitute is providing sex to anyone that can afford it, the porn star is only fucking other professionals and being paid so that other people can watch them fuck. She's not actually being paid for having sex in and of itself.
How are they supposed to prove that it's not just for the money?

Posted: 2004-04-26 07:03pm
by General Zod
Middleclass wrote:
Darth Zod wrote:So while the prostitute is providing sex to anyone that can afford it, the porn star is only fucking other professionals and being paid so that other people can watch them fuck. She's not actually being paid for having sex in and of itself.
This, of course, leads to an interesting legal loophole. Give a friend $400. Have him hire both the prostitute and you for a porn, paying $200 each. Screw in front of a camera, and it's all nice and legal, as far as I know.

Not that I've thought about it. :twisted:
that's what you call amateur porn. Doesn't necessarily have to be a prostitute either, any willing female will do so long as she understands what's going on and signs any forms that might be needed.

Posted: 2004-04-26 07:14pm
by Jon
Middleclass wrote:
Darth Zod wrote:So while the prostitute is providing sex to anyone that can afford it, the porn star is only fucking other professionals and being paid so that other people can watch them fuck. She's not actually being paid for having sex in and of itself.
This, of course, leads to an interesting legal loophole. Give a friend $400. Have him hire both the prostitute and you for a porn, paying $200 each. Screw in front of a camera, and it's all nice and legal, as far as I know.

Not that I've thought about it. :twisted:
Do you use prostitutes?

Posted: 2004-04-26 08:42pm
by Middleclass
Jon wrote:Do you use prostitutes?
I never have, but I see no problem with doing it, morally speaking. My only constraints are the law and the cash. But if I find myself in Nevada on a winning streak, you bet your ass I would.

Posted: 2004-04-26 08:49pm
by Jon
Middleclass wrote:
I never have, but I see no problem with doing it, morally speaking. My only constraints are the law and the cash. But if I find myself in Nevada on a winning streak, you bet your ass I would.
I have no problem with it either, when done with precautions, though I am yet to pay for it- doubt it will ever come to that but who nows. Bah, more porn! Its cheap and achieves the same result in the end.

*pop*

Posted: 2004-04-26 09:07pm
by Phantasee
Jon wrote:
Middleclass wrote:
I never have, but I see no problem with doing it, morally speaking. My only constraints are the law and the cash. But if I find myself in Nevada on a winning streak, you bet your ass I would.
I have no problem with it either, when done with precautions, though I am yet to pay for it- doubt it will ever come to that but who nows. Bah, more porn! Its cheap and achieves the same result in the end.

*pop*
Haha. Too bad that, unlike me, you can't get any for free.... :D

Posted: 2004-04-26 09:11pm
by Jon
I'm gonna be popping my girlfriend in about 4 hours. But you're right, I don't get that for free, she bleeds me dry like a vampire, money hogging bitch. Bah. But she's not always here and you know... :roll:

Posted: 2004-04-26 10:42pm
by Oni Koneko Damien
So, as long as you aren't getting money for the sex, then it's perfectly legal? Here's a loophole a lot of prostitutes are missing then...

Stop being 'prostitutes', just be 'temporary partners', you offer a couple hours of loving, understanding comfort for a fee. If sex occurs during that time...oh well, that wasn't what the charge was for, and thus, isn't prostitution. I'm certain a good lawyer could argue that case.

-Damien

Posted: 2004-04-26 10:49pm
by neoolong
Oni Koneko Damien wrote:So, as long as you aren't getting money for the sex, then it's perfectly legal? Here's a loophole a lot of prostitutes are missing then...

Stop being 'prostitutes', just be 'temporary partners', you offer a couple hours of loving, understanding comfort for a fee. If sex occurs during that time...oh well, that wasn't what the charge was for, and thus, isn't prostitution. I'm certain a good lawyer could argue that case.

-Damien
Isn't that what some escort services use?

Posted: 2004-04-27 12:21am
by Coalition
This, of course, leads to an interesting legal loophole. Give a friend $400. Have him hire both the prostitute and you for a porn, paying $200 each. Screw in front of a camera, and it's all nice and legal, as far as I know.
And when you both turn to him, you find out that he's long gone with the money, and you have to pay her the $200 anyway.

Posted: 2004-04-27 03:32am
by The Third Man
Maybe you could look at this contractually. In the porno case there is no direct contract between the two participants for supply of sex, therefore, it could be argued, no prostitution occurs. However, say I decided to produce and finance a prono starring myself, then there would be a more interesting situation, and, contractually speaking, I could be indulging in prostitution.

As Middleclass says, there could be interesting scope for avoiding prostitution charges by hiding behind a complicated mess of contracts. This, however, would necessitate the much more immoral and expensive (compared to prostitution) activity of giving large sums of money to a solicitor.

Posted: 2004-04-27 04:48am
by The Yosemite Bear
Personally I don't believe in consentual crimes anyways....

Posted: 2004-04-27 10:57am
by General Zod
Oni Koneko Damien wrote:So, as long as you aren't getting money for the sex, then it's perfectly legal? Here's a loophole a lot of prostitutes are missing then...

Stop being 'prostitutes', just be 'temporary partners', you offer a couple hours of loving, understanding comfort for a fee. If sex occurs during that time...oh well, that wasn't what the charge was for, and thus, isn't prostitution. I'm certain a good lawyer could argue that case.

-Damien
those are called excort services and massage parlors.

Posted: 2004-04-27 04:32pm
by Bob the Gunslinger
A friend of mine in the Bay Area has scoped out the Massage Parlor scene, and from what he says it's better than prostitution.
"You get a back rub, too."

Posted: 2004-04-27 04:43pm
by Middleclass
Coalition wrote:And when you both turn to him, you find out that he's long gone with the money, and you have to pay her the $200 anyway.
That's why you get pre-paid. :lol: