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So there's two trailers doing the rounds at the moment that make me want to throw my smuggled icecream at the screen in disgust. Not because of the hamminess of the acting, but because of the shamelessly perpetration of dangerously bad science.

Don't get me wrong - i appreciate there's a need to suspend reality in a fiction piece, and I'm over my phase of "well, actually, that's just not true" about Jurassic Park, Gattaca and the like. That's fine, becuase those films usually have a point that requires the suspension of certain facts.

But there are two films trailering right now that anger me not because of the bad science, but because they are perpetuating dangerous untruths.

The first one, Godsend seems to be nothign more than anti-GM propaganda, suggesting clones are the exact same person as their 'mother'. To the spiritual, it says that clones don't have unique souls, and that cloning is quite frankly evil. What this says about identical twins i don't know, but there's quite enough public misunderstanding of genetics out there without this kind of thing.

And then The Day After Tomorrow. I'm sure I don't need to point out what's wrong in this trailer. It opens with the line "10 thousand years ago one storm nearly ended the world" (or somethign similar). Well, here's the thing: it didn't.
I wouldn't even care if this was a religious film. For all I care, the left behind series can perpetrate for enternity. What pisses me off is this is an apparently secular film perpetrating a myth as fact. Not in a "suspension of disbelief" way, but in a "well, it happened once" way (like Armagedden and the KT comet, remember?) it's just a way of enforcing mythologies into the public subconscious as fac, and it annoys me.

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Anyway, so deos anyone else get similar reacions at trailers?

Godsend pisses me off too, but I'll no doubt see it.

The Day After Tomorrow looks funky and given I don't care about science when that much shit is being wiped out in such a cool way, it's another one to watch.

I'll no doubt pull a Phil Plait and smackdown anyone that thinks this is anything other than Hollywood science though.

The Day After Tomorrow promises to have a nice bodycount, and according to my new movie rating system movies with a high bodycount are good, like The Punisher for instance. I just want to watch it to see people die.

The trailer that makes me sick is Soul Plane. It's stupidly overacted and perpetuates every single stereotype about black people that you can think of. It's fucking disgusting and the makers of that movie should be shot.

Godsend looks pretty bad unless it has some good twists that are going to help it by word of mouth.


The Day After Tomorrow is made by Devlin and Emmerich the worlds greatests rip-off artists (Independence Day, Godzilla, The Patriot) and I see this movie as being their bigger better disaster movie. "Lets put all the disaster movies into one movie and then make them bigger. People will pay to see that".

I saw the trailer for that movie during VH and I being as clueless as I am I didn't get what they meant about a storm 10,000 years agon until IB mentioned it in this thread. During the trailer I was just wondering what they were talking about and I just assumed it was some recent discovery that I hadn't heard about or it was something made up for the movie.

I did kind of like the frozen over NYC.

As said, Soul Plane. One must wonder if it was made for the sole purpose of going down in history as the dumbest movie ever made, jusging by the trailer.

And pretty much any movie trailer gets on my nerves when it's played every other commercial break. Several movies are guilty of this.

That plane with the Hydraulics was particularly ridiculous. It looked like a child's toy airplane, the kind you'd pull back then let go to have it zoom along the floor.

The I, Robot trailer. GAH!

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

I read somewhere online last week how the producers were knowingly discarding the science for storytelling. To paraphrase: "To keep the viewer's interest we had to condense the timeline drastically. It would be difficult to impossible to have a plot that covers hundreds of years."

The Day After Tomorrow Looked.. err.. epic. When they talked about the storm, i assumed they ment millions or years ago or something, cause 10,000 seemed to recent, guess i need to pay attention more.

I, Robot kinda makes me mad though.. will smith? really.

Tsyroc wrote: The Day After Tomorrow is made by Devlin and Emmerich the worlds greatests rip-off artists (Independence Day, Godzilla, The Patriot) and I see this movie as being their bigger better disaster movie.

It's just Emmerich this time round. Reportedly they had a huge fall-out when making The Patriot and aren't on speaking terms nowadays.

Getting back to the topic, does anything really need to be said about the Son of the Mask trailer?

DaveJB wrote: Getting back to the topic, does anything really need to be said about the Son of the Mask trailer?

Is that the one where the little baby ends up wearing the mask?


I saw that trailer and a voice inside my mind screamed.

InnerBrat wrote:Don't get me wrong - i appreciate there's a need to suspend reality in a fiction piece, and I'm over my phase of "well, actually, that's just not true" about Jurassic Park, Gattaca and the like. That's fine, becuase those films usually have a point that requires the suspension of certain facts.

But there are two films trailering right now that anger me not because of the bad science, but because they are perpetuating dangerous untruths.

The first one, Godsend seems to be nothign more than anti-GM propaganda, suggesting clones are the exact same person as their 'mother'. To the spiritual, it says that clones don't have unique souls, and that cloning is quite frankly evil. What this says about identical twins i don't know, but there's quite enough public misunderstanding of genetics out there without this kind of thing.

Jurassic Park had the same "playing God is bad ... mmmmkay?" message that Godsend probably will. Both movies show humans manipulating genetics and then everything going to Hell afterward presumably because humans are arrogant and scientist are crazy people who want to usurp The One True God. Both movies make their respective scenarios out to be inevitable because of divine retribution or some such implied nonsense.

Gattaca was far, far different. Things were the way they were in Gattaca because of natural consequences of genetic manipulation, not because God was angry with us. Granted, the outlook presented was somewhat pessimistic, but it's still better than, "Everything will go to hell because humans played God."

Phil Skayhan wrote:I read somewhere online last week how the producers were knowingly discarding the science for storytelling. To paraphrase: "To keep the viewer's interest we had to condense the timeline drastically. It would be difficult to impossible to have a plot that covers hundreds of years."

Actually, Art Bell who (along with Whitney Streiber) did the main writing and claims to have quite a bit of oversight over the film says that the Science is grade A, and has told so to his millions of listeners time and time again. Of course, this being Bell you have to take quite a few pinches of salt with everything he says.

Garfield.......nuff said

White Chicks. I don't know what was worth, the trailer, or the fact that so many people in the audience were laughing. And not at it either.

Shinova wrote:

DaveJB wrote: Getting back to the topic, does anything really need to be said about the Son of the Mask trailer?

Is that the one where the little baby ends up wearing the mask?


I saw that trailer and a voice inside my mind screamed.

Yes. Basically, they're butchering another classic idea with a sequel.

GO HOLLYWOOD!

I, Robot. I literally felt like ripping apart the movie projector when the preview showed.

neoolong wrote:White Chicks. I don't know what was worth, the trailer, or the fact that so many people in the audience were laughing. And not at it either.

Every time I think the "Urban Black Gangsta Style Meets Uptight Whitey Rich Life" genre has been worn thin, the Wayans brothers come along and fuck up my theory.

Durandal wrote:

neoolong wrote:White Chicks. I don't know what was worth, the trailer, or the fact that so many people in the audience were laughing. And not at it either.

Every time I think the "Urban Black Gangsta Style Meets Uptight Whitey Rich Life" genre has been worn thin, the Wayans brothers come along and fuck up my theory.

It's a formula that works, it seems. I don't know why those movie makers don't just go around performing lobotomies and asking for cash off the audience.

Far too many.

But for this summer...I, Robot, and The Day after Tomorrow rank, very very high.

I, Robot because if they labeled it Terminator 2 1/2 it would make more sense. and well Day After is just a concept that while I can see much like Core and Armageddon, it still gets me in the gut.

I'm sure the summer is not done yet by a long shot though.

Just seen the preview for The Day After Tomorrow on tv,and all i can say is WTF

I cant wait for Day after Tomorrow, we nearly died laughing at the Core, this one should be just as entertaining for bad science... historic cold snaps taking at least several decades? nah, we'll do it on a bigger scale in several hours. Should be a good popcorn movie, either for throwing at the screen or using as a replacement for our eye balls when they get bored.

Phil Skayhan wrote:I read somewhere online last week how the producers were knowingly discarding the science for storytelling. To paraphrase: "To keep the viewer's interest we had to condense the timeline drastically. It would be difficult to impossible to have a plot that covers hundreds of years."

Damn them.

Captain tycho wrote:I, Robot. I literally felt like ripping apart the movie projector when the preview showed.

The trailer made my hatred burn with the fire of a thousand suns.

Not only are they turning Asimov's cerebral sci-fi into a summer popcorn action flick, not only are they shitting on everything Asimov tried to do thematically, but there is already an I, Robot script available. It was written by Harlan Ellison, and recieved Asimov's approval. Why, oh why, is this crap being filmed while Ellison's script lies abandoned?

yeah, keep the rodger corman physics to Rodger Corman films. I really don't care how the chicken became a dinosaur and started eating everyone at the tyson chicken farm and black ops Genni foods base, I just want to eat my popcorn and laugh at how bad it is. But when it takes it's self too seriously, and triese to be preachy it's just an insult to my intellegence.

no, the ones I hate the most are the overhyped P.O,S. films (ghosts of the abyss, (gee mr b. movie director whose gotten too big of a head, quit milking Titanic....))