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I hated them before, I hate them even more. Why is Petrol this expensive. I need to bitch, I mean- 80p per litre!!!! BASTARDS, at least 60p if not more of that is government tax alone. Then we have to pay in excess of £120 Road Tax per year, and then extortionate insurance prices... (im young... £1400 per year, on a clapped out, but reliable Ford fiesta).

Is it only the UK that is plagued with this extortion, I hear myths that in the US and Canada you're laughing at us... what is 80p, about $1.50? ... per litre. How much is Petrol (gasoline, whatever) in the US/Canada - and isn't road tax inclusive in that, BAH!

Jon wrote:what is 80p, about $1.50? ... per litre. How much is Petrol (gasoline, whatever) in the US/Canada - and isn't road tax inclusive in that, BAH!

*kills Jon*

I want $1.50 gasoline again.

NOW.

1.99 / Gal for the cheepest gas here

MKSheppard wrote:
1.99 / Gal for the cheepest gas here

80p per litre, so its about (give or take) £4 per gallon here... which again is about $7 USD- Extortion is what it is.

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Right now in my area it's not even 3 bux for a gallon. Though i forget the exact price at the moment.

Jon wrote:

MKSheppard wrote:
1.99 / Gal for the cheepest gas here

80p per litre, so its about (give or take) £4 per gallon here... which again is about $7 USD- Extortion is what it is.

How the hell do you people afford that?

It just topped $1.80 a gallon here. Probably the cheapest in the United States. Nevertheless, I'm glad I get 30mpg highway.

Just filled up my mom's minivan it cost $37.78 for just under 15 gallons so gas is getting rather expensive here in arizona too.

I keep seeing it between $1.68 - $1.77, though to be fair I haven't really paid attention recently (still half a tank, baby! I love my truck, though filling it is a bitch ).

Hamel wrote:

Jon wrote:

MKSheppard wrote:
1.99 / Gal for the cheepest gas here

80p per litre, so its about (give or take) £4 per gallon here... which again is about $7 USD- Extortion is what it is.

How the hell do you people afford that?

Extensive public transit options, higher population densities limiting how far you need to drive when public transit doesn't take you there.

We have a much more comprehensive 'Public Transport' system than the States, i.e- Bus Travel is very popular and cheap- but crowded, Trains (are not as bad as made out), light rail tram services... but that's beyond the point, we all have cars, and I drive upto 10 miles per day, most weeks.

And we're paying these extortinate petrol prices, on top of extortionate road tax and insurance prices...

edit: $1.70 a GALLON!!!!? That's like... what we pay per litre.. Nooooooo !!! and road tax is inclusive in that? Arghhh

Blame the Chinese. They're exporting loads of the stuff, much more than they have previously. Couple that with a slowdown in production and you have a problem.

It's about $1.85 here, but I have to use the Premium stuff so I have to drop about $1.95 a gallon.

RedImperator wrote:It just topped $1.80 a gallon here. Probably the cheapest in the United States. Nevertheless, I'm glad I get 30mpg highway.

Jesus dude, I'm paying $2.30 and when I went through LA it was like $2.50 a gallon.

Here in New Jersey the lowest I've seen in the past week is 1.83/gallon. Most have been $1.90-$2.00 however. I remember about four years ago before I started driving my parents always had to pay around $1.20/gal. Those were the days.

My Mom was telling me some guy she works with says that apparently this wednesday the 19th there is some boycott going on. Don't buy gas on that date if you can at all avoid it. I haven't heard it anywhere else but I'm gonna do it just because I have a half tank left and am not gonna have to fill up till next week probably.

Here in Ottawa it's 93 cents a liter or £.465 per liter or $2.66USD a gallon.

Where I live in New Jersey, it's about $1.69 at the very least. But, considering it's lower than the $2.00-plus a gallon people pay for in most other parts of the country, I feel kind of lucky.

87 octane is around $2.25 or so around here. Its goes up and down, I don't pay too much attention. I'm sure by this summer it will be around 3 bucks a gallon. Everything is expensive here.

Regular around here is around $2.25.

If I ever see someone say "no blood for oil" I will laugh in their face. Blood for oil? Where's the fucking oil?

Goddamnit, we go charging into Iraq on false pretenses and we can't even have a silver lining to the cloud of bullshit we kicked up? What the hell kind of imperialism is this, anyhow?

jon wrote: Why is Petrol this expensive.

Car-related taxes are now so high that I believe it's more than just the government exploiting an easy source of revenue. I believe someone has decided there's too many cars - and, although I'm a total car addict, I admit that there could be some validity to this view. Anyway the objective appears to be to tax the private car out of existence.

But that's nothing like the persecution that haulage companies suffer; there's an unbelieveable set of additional taxes and inspections that lorries get. This is why you now see so many of those JCB FastTrak things (a big, fancy and very fast tractor) pulling trailers of material and even containers about - they are taxed as an agricultural vehicle.

Want a tip? Here's what I'm told. I haven't verified this, but it comes from a usually reliable source. For the private motorist, the snow-plough rules can be exploited. Apparently, someone also decided that there aren't enough snow-ploughs, and the tax rules have therefore been relaxed. What you do, is get a credible 4x4 - a Disco or Landrover is ideal. You get a couple of brackets fixed to the front bumper, which are ostensibly to hold the snow-plough blade (which you do not have to carry at all times). You then register your vehicle as a "specialist vehicle" - the tax disc comes for free, no MOT is required, you can run on red (agricultual, reduced tax) diesel, and it can be insured as "industrial plant" (maybe £100/year). The only downside - you are supposed to cover no more than 3000 miles in the six "summer" months, although this could (if you were so inclined) be circumvented by the usual illegal methods. As an additional benefit, you could even earn a nice sum actually clearing snow off private roads and so on.

Apologies to the non-UK people, because I realise that transport terms seem to be one area in which mutual non-comprehension is rife.

Incidentally, the one and only time in my life I've been involved in direct political action was participating in the 2000 fuel blockade.

Say no to cars... buy a plane instead

$2.00 USD/ Gallon here. i fill up my Civic for around $21 once a week. a few months ago i was filling it for $17. Three cheers for efficient honda engines! 35 MPG sucka!

RedImperator wrote:

Hamel wrote:

Jon wrote: 80p per litre, so its about (give or take) £4 per gallon here... which again is about $7 USD- Extortion is what it is.

How the hell do you people afford that?

Extensive public transit options, higher population densities limiting how far you need to drive when public transit doesn't take you there.

Not to mention smaller, less potent and/or more efficient cars.

Jon wrote:I hated them before, I hate them even more. Why is Petrol this expensive. I need to bitch, I mean- 80p per litre!!!! BASTARDS, at least 60p if not more of that is government tax alone. Then we have to pay in excess of £120 Road Tax per year, and then extortionate insurance prices... (im young... £1400 per year, on a clapped out, but reliable Ford fiesta).

1) Prices are going up in the US as well.

2) Its actually still cheaper than it was at the last peak, in real money, according to the Telegraph.

Just do what I do and don't drive. Or vote Tory at the next election and see if they change it, which I very much doubt they will.

I don't drive as Lancaster has superb public transport so I laugh at those that have cars here and pay student grade insurance on top of the fuel prices.

Oil will continue to rise for the short-term at least, when oil reserves start to show signs of drying up or a limit is predicted, then you'll see what high-prices really are.

lol, The Third Man, some interesting ideas

Sharp Kun, Admiral Valdemar- I wish it were as simple as 'don't drive'- but don't get me wrong, I like to drive I like being able to hop in the car with a few mates, drive out to the Peak District and row a boat across a big lake, when I like

It's just ridiculous the amount of money it costs to run a personal vehicle. I use public transport alot, I don't go to college in the car (bus stops right by my house and I meet a few friends aboard, then walk into college from where it stops). I use the Manchester Metrolink (LRV system) - which though is ridiculously expensive also.

Like I say, it's just the convenience of having a car, so I'd rather 'just not drive'- I'd rather we just didn't have to pay 400%+ tax on petrol, lol.

Jon wrote: Like I say, it's just the convenience of having a car, so I'd rather 'just not drive'- I'd rather we just didn't have to pay 400%+ tax on petrol, lol.

Given that OPEC are bastards, and the fact that oil is going to run out sometime, expect to pay far more in the future.