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Any "Ripperologists" Here?

Posted: 2004-06-11 12:51am
by Lord Poe
I just started reading Patricia Cornwell's book, "Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper-- Case Closed", in whicch she names Walter Sickert as the Ripper. She used 21st century DNA tersting and other modern day forensic techniques on several things, along with a ton of circumstantial evidence to paint a character profile of Sickert that points to him.

I just started reading the book, (barely on page 50) but I decided to look online and see what the reaction to the book was. Well, "ripperologists" seem to think this book is the biggest piece of trash to ever come out about the Ripper!

Since I can relate to these guys due to the current crap on sw.com, I read their "dissertations" against the book. And although I haven't finished it yet, their nitpicks seem extremely thin. It looks like most of the criticism comes from the fact that A: she's a woman, and B: she's American.

They piss and moan that the Ripper letters that were sent to police by "Jack The Ripper" were all fakes. (It seems writing Ripper letters was a London pastttime in 1888, that lasted until the 1960's) However, they do concede that Cornwell at least proved that Sickert MAY HAVE "hoaxed" one of the letters. (Never been proven before) .

They also point out that Sickert was in France during the killings. But they do point out, as Cornwell does, that regular ferry service to and from France was available back then. That would make an excellent alibi, wouldn't it? Coupled with the fact that Sickert, a trained actor, loved to "dress up" in disguise and prowl the streets so transformed that friends and family didn't recognize him.

There's WAY too much to go into, but I'm not about to go toe to toe with "Ripperologists". Trekkies were enough! Has anyone read the book, or have an interest in Ripper-mania?

Posted: 2004-06-11 01:11am
by Dalton
:roll: We all know that Jack the Ripper is in cryo-stasis on the Vorlon homeworld.

Posted: 2004-06-11 01:19am
by fgalkin
Damnit! You beat me to it.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Posted: 2004-06-11 01:19am
by Lord Poe
Dalton wrote::roll: We all know that Jack the Ripper is in cryo-stasis on the Vorlon homeworld.
Hehehe! Maybe King Arthur is guarding him, eh?

Posted: 2004-06-11 01:24am
by Dalton
Lord Poe wrote:
Dalton wrote::roll: We all know that Jack the Ripper is in cryo-stasis on the Vorlon homeworld.
Hehehe! Maybe King Arthur is guarding him, eh?
You know, I wouldn't have been surprised if he actually WAS Arthur.

Posted: 2004-06-11 01:29am
by The Kernel
Dalton wrote::roll: We all know that Jack the Ripper is in cryo-stasis on the Vorlon homeworld.
Don't lie! We all know that he's actually floating in space near Argelius, plotting his revenge.

Posted: 2004-06-11 02:36am
by Superman
I thought a "Ripperologist" was someone who studies and catagorizes farts according to length and stench.

Posted: 2004-06-11 09:00am
by InnerBrat
unfortunately I don't know the history very well, despite an interest, but I did read a very convincing article on it's publication, by Sickert's biographer, whcih mentioned that Cornwell had got her dates wrong somewhere: some of the evidence presented against him did not coincide with his actual movements/the killings (sorry, very vague memory)

Anyway, why does it have to be a famous person? That's always puzzled me about Ripperology.

Posted: 2004-06-11 10:52am
by Raptor 597
InnerBrat wrote:Anyway, why does it have to be a famous person? That's always puzzled me about Ripperology.
Simply because only famous people can be raving homicidal maniacs. :roll:

Posted: 2004-06-11 10:55am
by Zac Naloen
InnerBrat wrote:Anyway, why does it have to be a famous person? That's always puzzled me about Ripperology.

Something about him being highly educated i think, therefore Rich, therefore famous.

Posted: 2004-06-11 12:31pm
by Rye
InnerBrat wrote:unfortunately I don't know the history very well, despite an interest, but I did read a very convincing article on it's publication, by Sickert's biographer, whcih mentioned that Cornwell had got her dates wrong somewhere: some of the evidence presented against him did not coincide with his actual movements/the killings (sorry, very vague memory)

Anyway, why does it have to be a famous person? That's always puzzled me about Ripperology.
If i remember your last response to it, Sickert had an alibi for some of the murders, at least.

Re: Any "Ripperologists" Here?

Posted: 2004-06-11 04:59pm
by ukamikazu
Lord Poe wrote:I just started reading Patricia Cornwell's book, "Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper-- Case Closed", in whicch she names Walter Sickert as the Ripper. She used 21st century DNA tersting and other modern day forensic techniques on several things, along with a ton of circumstantial evidence to paint a character profile of Sickert that points to him.

Since I can relate to these guys due to the current crap on sw.com, I read their "dissertations" against the book. And although I haven't finished it yet, their nitpicks seem extremely thin. It looks like most of the criticism comes from the fact that A: she's a woman, and B: she's American.

They also point out that Sickert was in France during the killings. But they do point out, as Cornwell does, that regular ferry service to and from France was available back then. That would make an excellent alibi, wouldn't it? Coupled with the fact that Sickert, a trained actor, loved to "dress up" in disguise and prowl the streets so transformed that friends and family didn't recognize him.
So, how does she explain the incidental appearances of Dr. Francis Twombletee? The timing of his movements between the US and England, his arrests for smuggling contraband (preserved human sexual organs) etc, etc.
I always thought Twombletee was good for it. Does she even mention him?