The JFK Deal......

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-31 01:54pm

Who did it?

I won't bore you with the Conspiracy theories, suffice to say, the only
real question is WHO did JFK NOT piss off?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-31 01:57pm

I think the Mob did is as revenge against Bobby's crackdown on their operations, which they saw as back-stabbing since they helped make sure Jack won the election.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-31 01:59pm

I see LHO alone isn't even an option, the true sign of a paranoid conspiritorist.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-31 02:00pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:I think the Mob did is as revenge against Bobby's crackdown on their operations, which they saw as back-stabbing since they helped make sure Jack won the election.

Interestingly enough, RFK when he was killed, they found TEN bullet holes
in the walls, but Sirhan only had a shitty 8 shot .22LR revolver....

The docs also found two bullet holes just under RFK's ear, coming in from
the BACK.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-31 02:03pm

IG-88E wrote:I see LHO alone isn't even an option, the true sign of a paranoid conspiritorist.

He's up there now. Can you please explain how LHO was able to make the
shot of a lifetime, by getting off SEVERAL AIMED SHOTS in a few seconds
from a shitty Mannlicher Carcano bolt action rifle with an even shittier
TASCO scope.....and the kicker is LHO was left handed, and the rifle was
right handed!

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-31 02:07pm

Not my point, Shep. I figure it was either Castro or the Russians, but the fact that you didn't even put the option there tells me quite a bit.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-31 02:09pm

IG-88E wrote:I see LHO alone isn't even an option, the true sign of a paranoid conspiritorist.

The thing is that he couldn't have. Or at least there was also someone else.

His gun was some cheep Italian piece of shit, with an action so sloppy that he never could have pulled off the number of shots he's said to make in that amount of time. (When they showed the gun on TV back in '63, my dad says his father, a major gun buff and amature expert, commeted "that gun did not kill Kennedy".)

Besides, how do you make an upper-rear exit wound when your shooting from above?

I think the Mob had a guy in the sewer drain and just used Oswald as a cover.

I don't know if Ruby killing him had anything to do with the assassination plot. The evidence has convinced me that Ruby did it because he was pissed and because he's an idiot.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2002-10-31 02:09pm

All of the above.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-31 02:11pm

Knife wrote:All of the above.

Whoa! care to expand on that?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-31 02:18pm

According to the Onion:

KENNEDY SLAIN BY CIA, MAFIA, CASTRO, LBJ, TEAMSTERS, FREEMASONS

President Shot 129 Times from 43 Different Angles

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2002-10-31 02:20pm

http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/11110.htm

Executive Order 11110

AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289
AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF
CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended --

(a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

"(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption," and

(b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

SEC. 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

JOHN F. KENNEDY

THE WHITE HOUSE,
June 4, 1963.

***********************

That started the US back on the road towards a REAL monetary standard,
but it pissed off the Fed Reserve, which is owned by the international
banking families....

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-31 02:27pm

Follow the money trail...

brettf · Post by **brettf** » 2002-10-31 02:31pm

Find a comfy chair, sit back, and read through http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Then get a copy of the Warren Report and actually read it.

LHO killed JFK.

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-31 02:32pm

EmperorMing wrote:Follow the money trail...

There's the best-kept secret of the Cold War.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-31 03:10pm

I think the Mob did is as revenge against Bobby's crackdown on their operations, which they saw as back-stabbing since they helped make sure Jack won the election.

The only evidence for this is Judith Campbell's testimony, a testimony she never swore by.

LHO killed Kennedy.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-31 03:12pm

Unless there were two of him, no.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2002-10-31 03:15pm

Unless there were two of him, no.

Yes, because there are mountains and mountains of evidence proving some vast conspiracy.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-31 03:17pm

The man is dead weather he was killed by little green men for Mars or super ninja squirrls matters not(At least this late in the game)

He's dead, its done and overwith

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2002-10-31 03:37pm

There is no doubt in my mind that Kennedy was killed by a conspiracy. There are just too many damning points against the LHO theory, greatest of them all being the Magic Bullet Theory - WTF?!?!?. You've got this bullet doing TURNS in order to get at all the wounds that it is responsible for? It is DISGUSTING to me that such a theory was even floated out there and then ACCEPTED as fact. UGH.

Also look at the Zupbredar(sp?) film. In the immortal words of Kevin Costner in JFK: "Back and to the left, Back and to the left." That kill shot came from the FRONT boys and girls, anyone that believes that last kill shot came from the Book Depository is deluded.

As to the true perpetrators - a combination of the above. The CIA and Army intelleigence probably planned it out, and by that I mean rogue elements most likely, then the mob was enlisted to maybe get the guns, some sort of low level involvement with Ruby hired to silence oswald. Perhaps the CIA told the mob that they would look the other way on some deals if they sacrificed Ruby to get rid of LHO. Cubans may have been involved on some level - back then the Cubans were involved in anything remotely linked to Castro (I know I'm Cuban)

See the movie JFK to get your feet wet on the theories - granted some of it is exagerated or just wrong - but it does bring up some good points.

Post by **Steve** » 2002-10-31 04:10pm

I think the laws of physics pretty much kill the "LHO killed JFK" claim.

That said, there are too many conflicting theories for anyone to sort through. Which is exactly what I'd do if I were a mastermind wanting to kill the President, set up an unlikely patsy and incredible official explaination, yet have multiple paths set up for the eventual conspiracy peeps to get lost on.

As for the movie, that was a piece of shit. Garrison had dick for evidence against Clay Shaw and Shaw was acquitted. The supposed connection between the CIA and Shaw was made by an Italian newspaper that was a known conduit for KGB propaganda and misinformation. A whole bunch of shit in the movie was made up, including the death of the pilot (who died of natural causes).

There was an entire History Channel documentary dedicated to debunking the movie.

And even Garrison has seemed to change his story. During the Shaw trial he held that Shaw and Oswald were co-conspirators, yet years later during interviews with Nigel Turner's "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" documentaries, he said Oswald was an innocent man and a patsy.

Post by **Steve** » 2002-10-31 04:31pm

Hmm, interesting that physicists have backed the idea of his head jerking like that from a shot from the Texas Repository building.

But how do they explain the testimony from a cop that within 90 seconds of the shooting, Oswald was in the 2nd floor lunch room and did not appear to have recently done any kind of running? I'm curious, as that's been a major stickler for me.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-31 04:34pm

JFK from 1965 fired from the grassy noll.

Guess the source and win a cookie.

Post by **Steve** » 2002-10-31 04:48pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:JFK from 1965 fired from the grassy noll.

Guess the source and win a cookie.

????

Sounds like something out of Clue.

Utsanomiko · Post by **Utsanomiko** » 2002-10-31 07:57pm

Can I guess? Nah, I only will if nobody else knows how JFK was shot by himself 2 years later.

Anyway, it doesn't have to be some vast conspiracy. The mob stuffed the ballot boxes for Kennedy (Conveniently close election, eh? Good thing JFK got in some extra votes from dead people.). When he wasn't playing how they wanted him to, they put a guy in that huge grate on the corner, and placed some communist clod way up in the depository (where the angle is too steep to shoot properly) to get caught.

Oh, and even lefties like myself can pull off quick bolt-action shots, but only on a decent gun. Maybe if he had a Mauser 98 or a Winchester Model 70, but with that POS it would be impossible to move that sloppy action that fast.).

Hey, it's the mafia: when you let them in during Prohibition, you better expect them to run parts for your country.

CorSec · Post by **CorSec** » 2002-10-31 09:33pm

JFK from 1965 fired from the grassy noll.

Guess the source and win a cookie.

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