why soldiers tap the mags before inserting?
Posted: 2004-08-27 11:37am
why do US soldiers (at least in movies) tap the magazines to their helmet or some similar thing before inserting the mags?
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Its also often a good luck ritual. Like how some soldiers blow on their mags before inserting them; it doesn't really clear away enough dust to do much, but its a psychological thing.Chardok wrote:Faram is right. It reduces the possibility of jamming, because it seat all tthe rounds against the mag of the magazine, allowing the bolt to "Get a better grip" so to speak, on the next round and chamber it properly. Does it really help? Maybe, maybe not. But when you're going into combat, the way I see it, any little tip or trick you can do which may or may not better your chance of survival is a good one. after all, can't hurt anything.
It seems to me that this is more likely to dislodge one of the top rounds on the Mag. I was taught to look at the top of the mag before fitting it to the weapon, to make sure the top round is seated correctly.Faram wrote:When you load the mag with bullets they are not perfectly oriented inside the mag.
taping the mag orients the bullets inside the mag and reduces the possibility for jamming.
Atleast that's why I learnt to tap the mag against a rock or sumthing but then again I did use a K-Pist 45b 36 rounds of 9mm in one mag.
Unless you were sticking your fingers inside, you'd need to whack the magazine pretty hard to do that.Dirty Harry wrote:It seems to me that this is more likely to dislodge one of the top rounds on the Mag.Faram wrote:When you load the mag with bullets they are not perfectly oriented inside the mag.
taping the mag orients the bullets inside the mag and reduces the possibility for jamming.
Atleast that's why I learnt to tap the mag against a rock or sumthing but then again I did use a K-Pist 45b 36 rounds of 9mm in one mag.
Its "Tap, Rack, Bang" nowadays. Oh yes and everyone else has already nailed it, its done to seat all the rounds as best as can be.Knife wrote:Tapping the mag is to make sure the rounds are seated right, but if you are trained right, and assuming you have an M16, you'll also tap the forward assist after cocking the weapon.
Hey, Chardok, remember "Rap, Tap, Bang"?
CmdrWilkens wrote:
Its "Tap, Rack, Bang" nowadays. Oh yes and everyone else has already nailed it, its done to seat all the rounds as best as can be.
Probably because they are using shit standard weapons (or overly complicated weapons). Here in the UK we have the embarrassing SA-80 . You never see any Russian soldiers doing that. I saw some demo movie clips a while back that were advertising some Russian guns and it just blew me away. They were throwing the guns in mud, sand, water, they even ran the guns over with big trucks. Immediately after doing each of these things a soldier would pick the gun up and fire away.why do US soldiers (at least in movies) tap the magazines to their helmet or some similar thing before inserting the mags
Is it this ad?Admiral_Handsome wrote:Probably because they are using shit standard weapons (or overly complicated weapons). Here in the UK we have the embarrassing SA-80 . You never see any Russian soldiers doing that. I saw some demo movie clips a while back that were advertising some Russian guns and it just blew me away. They were throwing the guns in mud, sand, water, they even ran the guns over with big trucks. Immediately after doing each of these things a soldier would pick the gun up and fire away.
Yes Vympel thats the one I saw, only the version I saw had a larger image of higher quality. I will have look for the ads I saw if you like, but its been a while since I saw them so no promises.Is it this ad?
the reason it is "Tap, Rack, Bang"Knife wrote:CmdrWilkens wrote:
Its "Tap, Rack, Bang" nowadays. Oh yes and everyone else has already nailed it, its done to seat all the rounds as best as can be.
How does that work?
Rack, tap, bang; refered to cocking the weapon (in this case, cycling the weapon to remove the misfire and inserting a new cartrage into the chamber), tapping the forward assist, and shooting. If you switch the tap with the rack, how does that work?
Guessing here, are they dissmissing the initial cocking of the cocking lever, and just going straight to the missfire itself, thinking that you would automaticaly re-cock the mechinism, and go straigh for the tap?
I remember that one too.consequences wrote:I think it was SPORTS when they explained it to us:
Slap the magazine
Pull the charging handle
Observe the chamber(to make sure the round actually comes out)
Release the Charging handle
Tap the forward assist
Shoot something
Oh, the ideas that SD.netters can come up with in a totally different thread.Lord Revan wrote:thanks for the info and BTW is it just my or does anybody else get weird(sexual) ideas about title?
Well this is a weird placeGoldenFalcon wrote:Oh, the ideas that SD.netters can come up with in a totally different thread.Lord Revan wrote:thanks for the info and BTW is it just my or does anybody else get weird(sexual) ideas about title?
Thanks for the added info, but if you actually read Wilkens post, he stated that this was the IA for a "stop-fire".consequences wrote:Actually, SPORTS isn't automatically a fully effective remedial action. When you get a double feed, you usually have to remove the magazine, as the rifle tends to only eject one of the rounds in the chamber, before feeding another one onto the one still in there, leaving you in the same situation as previously.
Properly in that situation it would be
Slap magazine
Pull charging handle(and lock back)
Observe chamber
Remove magazine
Shake loose second round
Reinsert magazine
Release charging handle (observe bolt moving forward)
Tap forward assist (observe if bolt seats)
Sight in and fire (or Shoot depending on who teaches)
or SPORSRRTS.
Of course, none of this will help you in the slightest if you get a Bolt Override, in which case the proper procedure I was taught was to very carefully put the rifle down, scream for help, and huddle helplessly behind something solid until the armorer truck arrives on the Range.