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50 Reasons LOTR sucks

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:41am
by Kuja
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/film/50reasons.html

I'm sorry, I MUST BLAST THIS.

I've heard some students are even forced to read some novelization of the movie in their literature classes. Ridiculous. Does Hollywood run our classrooms now?
When did Hollywood make the list of required reading? And since when is LOTR on the banned list?
Hollywood can't make a movie these days without crapping out a sequel the next year to squeeze more money out of the sheep. Guess what; there's ANOTHER LOTR movie coming this Christmas. Gee, I wonder what will bring Rocky out of retirement this time?
Of course there's a sequel, dipshit. First off it's a book trilogy. Second, the movie was as popular as fuck, of course there's going to be a sequel.
Millions of copies of the LOTR DVD have thick black bars at the bottom and top of the screen throughout the film. Didn't anyone catch this? You know what happens at the end, in the extreme foreground and extreme upper sky? Neither do I. Bush league, guys.
It's called widescreen, you fucktard.
Look closely and you'll notice the human member of their party is played by two different actors at different points of the movie (it takes a sharp eye to notice, but one of them has red hair, one black).


STUNT DOUBLES, dipshit. And this detracts from the movie HOW?
In the massive Mt. Doom battle scene at the beginning of Fellowship of the Ring, a DVD pause reveals at least half a dozen of the 50,000 Orc Warrior extras are wearing modern tennis shoes.
Jokes from the editing crew. Again: this detracts from the moive HOW?
The Orcs were obviously stolen from PC game maker Blizzard and its Warcraft series. Too bad Blizzard is apparently too scared to sue New Line over it.
Too bad LOTR was around before Blizzard ever thought of making a game.
Percentage of protagonists in Fellowship who are white: 100. Meanwhile the black antagonists and their black crow spies and their black glass seeing ball inhabit their black towers and perform black magic. Gosh, I wonder if there's some symbolism there?
Gosh, Saruman is black? Wowie!
The ring, which is seen to be at least two inches in diameter at the beginning to fit the polish sausage-sized finger of Sauron, suddenly fits Frodo's child-sized finger later. I guess this movie takes place in a world where rings magically change sizes on their own.
That's exactly what it does. Read the book, fucktard.
Give me one reason that story couldn't have been told without all the fighting.
It was in the book, shithead.
Why didn't they take horses on their quest? Or even better, why didn't Gandalf's giant flying bird friend haul them into Mordor? Watch out, Frodo! All of your methods of transportation have been swallowed by the Dark Lord of the Plot Hole!
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but READ THE BOOK.

Return of the Living Dead.
If you watch closely during the Inn scene, Frodo and his crew are shown getting stabbed by the Ring Wraiths. Then, five seconds later, they are fine again. Note to the director: try proofreading your movie before you release it to the public.
Note to the dipshit: only Frodo got stabbed.
Liv Tyler's character is seen easily defeating nine strong supernatural beings, even though she is clearly a woman.
I think I'll let the girls rip into you for that one.
The mutated muscular soldiers of Mordor turned out to be hilariously ineffective soldiers, a dozen of them held off by a single dying human. Apparently they made the beasts by crossing Orcs, Goblins and the French.
Held off? Held off from what? They got what they wanted and left.
Gandalf's smoke boat is pretty impressive, but smoke cannot be made to travel horizontally, thus revealing it to be nothing but a cheap special effect.
He's a wizard, dumbass.
We all saw Gandalf fall into the molten core of Middle Earth after his battle with the firebeast thing. Well, I guess the Gandalf action figure must have sold well, because in the slap-together sequel coming up this year Gandalf is back. I wonder if they'll even bother to explain it. Maybe he'll be resurrected via voodoo, a la the corpse in Weekend at Bernie's II (look closely and you'll notice LOTR steals several elements from the WAB films).
Again I beat the dead horse: READ THE BOOKS.
Every time Frodo or Bilbo went invisible with the ring they should have also gone BLIND. Your eyes cannot function unless light is reflected off the cornea. If light passes through it (as must be the case with invisibility) sight is no longer possible. Also, rings do not turn you invisible.
Suspension of disbelief. Use it. Love it. Enjoy movies more.
The giant fire beast thing at the end was breathing a firey breath hot enough to send heat-distortion waves through the air. The sheer temperature of the air should have burned off Gandalf's beard and eyebrows. None of my reading on evolutionary biology reveals a single reason why a particular race of humans would develop unflammable facial hair as this would provide practically no advantage in either survival or mating.
He's not human.
The rushed-through story the screenwriter threw in as the first ten minutes of Fellowship of the Ring looked a lot more interesting than the movie we were forced to watch. Why didn't somebody make a movie off that instead?


Because IT'S NOT THE BOOK.
Experts on the occult say in order for a wizard to floorspin a fully-grown man like Gandalf, he'd need three magical staffs, not two.
I'll assume you pulled this out of your ass and move on.
So Bilbo, who we are supposed to identify with as a protagonist, finds a piece of someone else's jewelry and just keeps it for himself? That's funny, because I would expect a good man to submit it to the local Lost and Found so it could be claimed by its owner. It makes me wonder if he bought that hillside house or if he was just squatting.
Lost and Found in a Medieval-type setting? Don't make me laugh.
Legolas shoots arrow after arrow at his enemies, and yet the number of arrows in his quiver never decreases. I guess elves have glands on their back that secrete arrows.
Actually, I wondered about that one myself.
The heroes are shown eating again and again, and yet no one ever goes to the bathroom throughout their entire quest.
How would it advance the plot?
The character of Gollum in The Two Towers will be entirely computer animated, in a cheap effort to cash in on Jar Jar Binks Mania. Thank you, Peter Jackson. Thank you right to Hell.
Wow! All CGI characters are now an attempt to cash in off Jar Jar?
The Elves, clearly the most advanced and wise species, are also clearly gay.
I'll let the homosexuals rip you up on that one.
Elves are beautiful and wise and tall? Great warriors? Makers of fine lightweight weapons? Our modern knowledge of elves has observed only an ability to make cookies and toys. All the elves in the film are portrayed as living in a warm paradise (Rivendell) but our own information tells us the aforementioned group of toymaking elves work and thrive in the arctic. Hey, Mr. Jackson: Research is half of writing.
Welcome to fantasy, dumbass.
The "happy village of little people" idea was stolen from Willow.
Um......no?
The wise old wizard character was stolen from Harry Potter.
If anyone stole anything, the reverse is true.
The "travelling on our quest through a corn field" scene was stolen from Shrek.
LOTR was qritten before Shrek was ever thought of.
The character of the rebellious-but-helpful Ranger was stolen from Val Kilmer in Willow.
See above.
The concept of the violent dwarf was based on Al Pacino.
Riiiiiiiiiiiight.
The "old man looking through the door hatch at the approaching little people" scene was stolen from A Clockwork Orange.
Wow, I'm really sensing a pattenr here, aren't you?
The cantina scene with a noisy bar filled with a mix of otherworldly species was stolen from Cecile B. DeMille's One Night in an Alien Bar.


I'm surprised he didn't say Star Wars.
The incident with the flock of evil magical spying crows serving the All-Seeing Eye was based on an actual incident.
Where the fuck did you pull that from?
The character of the Giant Evil Flaming All-Seeing Eye was based on former President Jimmy Carter.
What, exactly, are you on?
The character of Elrond was based on Agent Smith from The Matrix.
Uh, maybe it's because that's the same actor?
AKA "Plot Hole No. 273." Even with all that walking and light eating, the character of Sam only got fatter.
Actors gain and lose weight. How many viewings did it take you to notice that, BTW?
Liv Tyler's immortal elf volunteers to give up her eternal life for a single romance with a human man. Could any man really be that well endowed? I find it unlikely.
I find it unlikely you've ever loved anyone.
The most advanced civilization is that of the elves, which are long-haired, new-age types? Sorry, Mr. Jackson, but modern science has proven that in any modern civilization, hippies would be extinct.
Yes, we all saw them smoking hippie drugs, didn't we?
No movie should be over two hours long. Did we need that whole thing in the mine? Didn't it seem like they were just adding pointless scenes in the middle to pad it? It's like they decided beforehand they wanted three hours and used filler to flesh it out.

Actually, they CUT IT DOWN from following THE BOOK.
I just want to re-emphasize the above point. There is no reason entertainment can't be concise.
You just said this to reach 50.
Too many characters to keep track of. The dwarf was clearly only there as a token dwarf character to sell tickets to lucrative movie-going dwarf demographic. Lose him.
Or maybe he was in the BOOK!
Why is the black octopus creature painted as the bad guy when it attacks, when one of the fellowship had clearly been throwing rocks at it?
Most octopi simply start a friendly game of catch. This one WAY overreacted.
The Hobbits both 1) refuse to wear shoes and 2) run a livestock-based farming economy. Wouldn't they constantly be stepping in crap? Why doesn't the movie address this issue?
Why should it?
Couldn't Frodo have been played by Christopher Walken?
That's just scary.
Why couldn't Gandalf have been played by Bruce Campbell?
Another pointless point.
Why couldn't Bilbo have been played by Vin Diesel?
:roll:
Why couldn't the Ranger have been played by a monkey?
Like you?
The background music wasn't nearly funky enough for me.
Deal with it, bitch.
As bad as the Lucasfilm leaks were last year, the filmmakers of The Two Towers already have the novelization out in paperback. I've seen it at Barnes & Noble already. As if we needed any less of a reason to go see it.
Well, I hate to break it to you, but the 'novelization' has been out for decades.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:45am
by Raxmei
Have you considered the possibility that this list was written as a joke?

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:47am
by Kuja
I don't care.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:47am
by Tsyroc
Where did you find this nob!?! :evil:

He sounds just like the people who were complaining about the title The Two Towers capitalizing on the destruction of the WTC.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:47am
by The Dark
Please tell me this was a sarcastic joke site someone came up with.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:50am
by ElBlanco
Yes, it was a joke. I originally posted it here. Look at the domain. Read some of the other reviews and look through their forum (I am aware it isn't loading right now)

It was one of the funniest things I ever read and the fallout was hysterical.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:50am
by jegs2
I've read all of the books and tried to drudge through The Similirian without success. Thought that Fellowship of the Ring was well-done as a movie, and hope The Two Towers follows suit. As for novelezations of the movies, I've not seen them and certainly see no point in producing them, since the books have been out for decades...

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:52am
by ElBlanco
And what is even funnier is that IG-88 got a bunch of the rebuttals wrong.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:53am
by Kuja
ElBlanco wrote:And what is even funnier is that IG-88 got a bunch of the rebuttals wrong.
Like what?

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:57am
by fgalkin
Dead link

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin.

Posted: 2002-11-12 12:59am
by Kuja
fgalkin wrote:Dead link

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin.
Huh. The one ElBlanco posted is dead as well.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:02am
by ElBlanco
Right off the top of my head: The reason you see two different humans in the Fellowship isn't because of stunt doubles, as you claimed, but because there were two humans in the Fellowship.

[Quote:
Elves are beautiful and wise and tall? Great warriors? Makers of fine lightweight weapons? Our modern knowledge of elves has observed only an ability to make cookies and toys. All the elves in the film are portrayed as living in a warm paradise (Rivendell) but our own information tells us the aforementioned group of toymaking elves work and thrive in the arctic. Hey, Mr. Jackson: Research is half of writing.]


Welcome to fantasy, dumbass
By this point you should have figured it was a joke. And Pointless Waste of Time is working again.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:05am
by Kuja
ElBlanco wrote:Right off the top of my head: The reason you see two different humans in the Fellowship isn't because of stunt doubles, as you claimed, but because there were two humans in the Fellowship.
By this point you should have figured it was a joke.
Is this the best you can do? STFU, fucktard. First off, it is possible to tell the stunt doubles apart in several scenes. Second, I DON'T CARE if it was a joke or not.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:06am
by Stravo
Christ Iggy couldn't you tell this was just a joke? You really are edgey about LOTR aren't you? :wink:

Oh by the way as an example of where you failed to read his post:
Quote:
If you watch closely during the Inn scene, Frodo and his crew are shown getting stabbed by the Ring Wraiths. Then, five seconds later, they are fine again. Note to the director: try proofreading your movie before you release it to the public.


Note to the dipshit: only Frodo got stabbed.
He mean when the wraiths stabbed the empty beds in the Prancing Pony NOT wheathertop.

It was just a joke and a rather funny one at that.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:09am
by Kuja
Stravo wrote:Christ Iggy couldn't you tell this was just a joke? You really are edgey about LOTR aren't you? :wink:

Oh by the way as an example of where you failed to read his post:
Quote:
If you watch closely during the Inn scene, Frodo and his crew are shown getting stabbed by the Ring Wraiths. Then, five seconds later, they are fine again. Note to the director: try proofreading your movie before you release it to the public.


Note to the dipshit: only Frodo got stabbed.
So I got pissed. Fuck off.

He mean when the wraiths stabbed the empty beds in the Prancing Pony NOT wheathertop.

It was just a joke and a rather funny one at that.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:09am
by ElBlanco
That was what David Wong (no relation to Mike Wong) was refering to.

He wrote it as a joke. If you didn't really care, you wouldn't get so worked up now would you? Are you getting this worked up over a silly book written a long time ago and has no relevance to your life other than a nice story?

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:09am
by fgalkin
Gog, Iggie, chill. The joke was funny, but it was nothing more than that. You don't have to kill everybody who says anything bad about LOTR

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:11am
by Kuja
I'm not killing someone who disses LOTR. I'm killing someone who irritates the hell out of me.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:12am
by Darth Wong
I thought it was downright hilarious how he kept blasting FOTR for ripping off movies and shows that came decades after the LOTR trilogy was written. I've seen a lot of movie reviews and commentaries that were dead serious and made similar mistakes (or in some cases, blasted docu-dramas for dramatic embellishment when they were being completely accurate; I still remember one idiot in the local paper lambasting "Apollo 13" because they couldn't possibly have had all of those problems and survived).

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:13am
by Kuja
Darth Wong wrote:I still remember one idiot in the local paper lambasting "Apollo 13" because they couldn't possibly have had all of those problems and survived).
You've GOTTA be kidding me.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:17am
by Zaia
Darth Wong wrote:I thought it was downright hilarious how he kept blasting FOTR for ripping off movies and shows that came decades after the LOTR trilogy was written. I've seen a lot of movie reviews and commentaries that were dead serious and made similar mistakes (or in some cases, blasted docu-dramas for dramatic embellishment when they were being completely accurate; I still remember one idiot in the local paper lambasting "Apollo 13" because they couldn't possibly have had all of those problems and survived).
I've read serious movie reviews like that as well, which is why I was cheering Iggy on the whole time and simultaneously being afraid for the human race.
As we've learned from fundies, you can't underestimate stupidity. It's simply impossible.

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:19am
by Kuja
Zaia wrote: I've read serious movie reviews like that as well, which is why I was cheering Iggy on the whole time and simultaneously being afraid for the human race.
As we've learned from fundies, you can't underestimate stupidity. It's simply impossible.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." -Einstein

Posted: 2002-11-12 01:28am
by neoolong
I thought it was real until it just got to non-sensical. The thing is though that many of those "problems" are something someone might say. That says a lot about the types of morons there are out there.

Posted: 2002-11-12 02:26am
by Slartibartfast
David Wong is fucking hilarious. Even more hilarious is watching people get pissed and leash out at him, trying to rebut his 50 reasons. That was the only reason I joined his message board, to take potshots at the rebutters :lol:

I never miss that site, all the movie reviews rock. Read the supposed 'manuscript' for Attack of the Clones.

"I know it's a joke but it's not funny because it's about LoTR" is as low as it gets, hehe

Add: check the forums, I started the rumour that JRR tolkien actually stole the plot of LoTR from a song by Leonard Nimoy. I actually put a link to the music video as evidence.

Posted: 2002-11-12 02:44am
by Gandalf
Quote:
Legolas shoots arrow after arrow at his enemies, and yet the number of arrows in his quiver never decreases. I guess elves have glands on their back that secrete arrows.

IG-88E: Actually, I wondered about that one myself.
It says in the book and is generally excepted that he picks up arrows as he goes along